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napoleon_in_rags

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29. any system of knowledge that has endured for centuries ... has something to it.
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 02:05 AM
Dec 2011

Greek myths have endured for centuries. But is does that mean Zeus sitting on the mountain directing our fates? Or fairies really are in the woods? Of course there's something to these, but that something is a reflection of the human mind, of ourselves, how we operate.

My basic perception of reality comes from science. In order for me to believe that there is an external reality to astrology, an astrologer has to predict statistical trends in people's fates/behaviors who don't themselves believe in astrology, and the studies have to back it up. Studying it for years will shape my brain to see astrological wonders all around me, but without that predictive component its not part of the external material world.

I hope you don't take my comments as devaluing your study. In my paradigm, you freaking out about that is like somebody saying: "I spent years believing dollar bills had value, and now you're telling me that they're just pieces of paper?" Both are true. They have value, and that's because people believe these pieces of paper have value. Belief is a very powerful thing.

edit: Oh, I read your other post and you might be interested, my chart is all Pisces and Virgo so this is my house: the mystical spiritual as it relates to the analytical thinking of science. Yes, it fits me well, but as a rational thinker, I cannot rule out that my personality was shaped by my time in Bohemia. What I can tell you is that you're lecturing the wrong guy on the need to study occult science!

“For those who believe Danchi Dec 2011 #1
Well, not a god believer either, And I disagree with your statement..... Logical Dec 2011 #2
We'll need a better definition for UFOs. greyl Dec 2011 #3
Good point, I just assume UFO means alien controlled vehicles. Logical Dec 2011 #4
True, but that does leave open top-secret vehicles either piloted by humans or controlled remotely. greyl Dec 2011 #5
LOL...good one! Logical Dec 2011 #6
What is a UFO Larry L. Burks Dec 2011 #7
They are similar to Higgs Boson The Straight Story Dec 2011 #8
Excellent response. frogmarch Dec 2011 #9
What does proof mean? Look at astrology. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2011 #10
Hmm....interesting point! But I admit I have trouble thinking that direction. Maybe too logical! Logical Dec 2011 #11
Thanks! Well here's a really simple experiment, anybody curious can do it in two days. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2011 #12
You start off pretty good, for an amateur Remember Me Dec 2011 #13
Is it possible it has endured for centuries because... zappaman Dec 2011 #14
No, that's not possible Remember Me Dec 2011 #15
uh huh zappaman Dec 2011 #16
Yes, of course I can tell what sign you are Remember Me Dec 2011 #20
Predictability, repeatability, etc. Remember Me Dec 2011 #23
Double blind experiments are possible with astrology. Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #24
Oh Remember Me Dec 2011 #26
Gaugelin? zappaman Dec 2011 #27
Does Astrology work in other solar systems? greyl Dec 2011 #17
If other solar systems have sentient beings who Remember Me Dec 2011 #18
Does your own explanation satisfy your curiosity? greyl Dec 2011 #19
LOL -- I don't have any curiosity about other solar systems Remember Me Dec 2011 #21
Can you say a little bit about the forces known to expert astrologers greyl Dec 2011 #22
No, I can't. Perhaps a study of Carl Jung would answer that for you -- ?? nt Remember Me Dec 2011 #25
Perhaps you can direct me to where Jung answered my questions. nt greyl Dec 2011 #28
any system of knowledge that has endured for centuries ... has something to it. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2011 #29
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