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26. Oh
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 08:49 PM
Dec 2011

THIS Gaugelin?

Gauquelin's own conclusions were subject to change throughout the course of his life due to his research over several decades, and in the beginning after his initial studies he was very critical of certain widely accepted beliefs in astrology, particularly the zodiacal signs, which he extensively tested without finding results:

"It is now quite certain that the signs in the sky which presided over our births have no power whatever to decide our fates, to affect our hereditary characteristics, or to play any part, however humble, in the totality of effects, random or otherwise, which form the fabric of our lives and mould our impulses to action." (The Scientific Basis for Astrology, 1970)

Although he always remained highly critical of astrology in general, his attitude towards its existence changed as his studies progressed in the study of the diurnal cycle, which is related to the astrological houses.

"Subsequent results only confirmed and amplified my initial discovery about the physicians. On the whole, it emerged that there was an increasingly solid statistical link between the time of birth of great men and their occupational success. ... Having collected over 20,000 dates of birth of professional celebrities from various European countries and from the United States, I had to draw the unavoidable conclusion that the position of the planets at birth is linked to one's destiny. What a challenge to the rational mind!"[3] (Neo-Astrology, 1991)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Gauquelin

And this one: http://www.astrologycritics.com/cosmic-influences-on-human-behavior.html

As for picking out your own chart, here's what a chart looks like:



and anyone is surprised that no one could pick out theirs? Please.

Who decided that matching charts to the California Personality Index was a good and viable test? I am not myself familiar with the test, are you? What's in it? It probably measures things not easily detected via astrology -- and vice versa!

You know, anyone can design tests and "experiments" that will ensure failure, or just through utter incompetence or utter ignorance (of astrology) design tests and experiments that are sure to fail. Get some astrologers and "scientists" to agree on some tests and then see what happens. In the meantime, what you've dredged up doesn't meet the definition of scientific proof to me:

...evidence which serves to either support or counter a scientific theory or hypothesis. Such evidence is generally expected to be empirical and properly documented in accordance with scientific method such as is applicable to the particular field of inquiry. Standards for evidence may vary according to whether the field of inquiry is among the natural sciences or social sciences[citation needed]. Evidence may involve understanding all steps of a process, or one or a few observations, or observation and statistical analysis of many samples without necessarily understanding the mechanism.


If you don't even know the right questions to ask, you aren't going to get the right answers.

Now -- as I said elsewhere, this has been interesting and fun, but too time-consuming. I won't be responding further.
“For those who believe Danchi Dec 2011 #1
Well, not a god believer either, And I disagree with your statement..... Logical Dec 2011 #2
We'll need a better definition for UFOs. greyl Dec 2011 #3
Good point, I just assume UFO means alien controlled vehicles. Logical Dec 2011 #4
True, but that does leave open top-secret vehicles either piloted by humans or controlled remotely. greyl Dec 2011 #5
LOL...good one! Logical Dec 2011 #6
What is a UFO Larry L. Burks Dec 2011 #7
They are similar to Higgs Boson The Straight Story Dec 2011 #8
Excellent response. frogmarch Dec 2011 #9
What does proof mean? Look at astrology. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2011 #10
Hmm....interesting point! But I admit I have trouble thinking that direction. Maybe too logical! Logical Dec 2011 #11
Thanks! Well here's a really simple experiment, anybody curious can do it in two days. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2011 #12
You start off pretty good, for an amateur Remember Me Dec 2011 #13
Is it possible it has endured for centuries because... zappaman Dec 2011 #14
No, that's not possible Remember Me Dec 2011 #15
uh huh zappaman Dec 2011 #16
Yes, of course I can tell what sign you are Remember Me Dec 2011 #20
Predictability, repeatability, etc. Remember Me Dec 2011 #23
Double blind experiments are possible with astrology. Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #24
Oh Remember Me Dec 2011 #26
Gaugelin? zappaman Dec 2011 #27
Does Astrology work in other solar systems? greyl Dec 2011 #17
If other solar systems have sentient beings who Remember Me Dec 2011 #18
Does your own explanation satisfy your curiosity? greyl Dec 2011 #19
LOL -- I don't have any curiosity about other solar systems Remember Me Dec 2011 #21
Can you say a little bit about the forces known to expert astrologers greyl Dec 2011 #22
No, I can't. Perhaps a study of Carl Jung would answer that for you -- ?? nt Remember Me Dec 2011 #25
Perhaps you can direct me to where Jung answered my questions. nt greyl Dec 2011 #28
any system of knowledge that has endured for centuries ... has something to it. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2011 #29
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