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In reply to the discussion: Ghosts, UFOs, ESP, Astrology, Free Energy, Clairvoyant........ [View all]Remember Me
(1,532 posts)26. Oh
THIS Gaugelin?
Gauquelin's own conclusions were subject to change throughout the course of his life due to his research over several decades, and in the beginning after his initial studies he was very critical of certain widely accepted beliefs in astrology, particularly the zodiacal signs, which he extensively tested without finding results:
"It is now quite certain that the signs in the sky which presided over our births have no power whatever to decide our fates, to affect our hereditary characteristics, or to play any part, however humble, in the totality of effects, random or otherwise, which form the fabric of our lives and mould our impulses to action." (The Scientific Basis for Astrology, 1970)
Although he always remained highly critical of astrology in general, his attitude towards its existence changed as his studies progressed in the study of the diurnal cycle, which is related to the astrological houses.
"Subsequent results only confirmed and amplified my initial discovery about the physicians. On the whole, it emerged that there was an increasingly solid statistical link between the time of birth of great men and their occupational success. ... Having collected over 20,000 dates of birth of professional celebrities from various European countries and from the United States, I had to draw the unavoidable conclusion that the position of the planets at birth is linked to one's destiny. What a challenge to the rational mind!"[3] (Neo-Astrology, 1991)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Gauquelin
And this one: http://www.astrologycritics.com/cosmic-influences-on-human-behavior.html
As for picking out your own chart, here's what a chart looks like:
and anyone is surprised that no one could pick out theirs? Please.
Who decided that matching charts to the California Personality Index was a good and viable test? I am not myself familiar with the test, are you? What's in it? It probably measures things not easily detected via astrology -- and vice versa!
You know, anyone can design tests and "experiments" that will ensure failure, or just through utter incompetence or utter ignorance (of astrology) design tests and experiments that are sure to fail. Get some astrologers and "scientists" to agree on some tests and then see what happens. In the meantime, what you've dredged up doesn't meet the definition of scientific proof to me:
...evidence which serves to either support or counter a scientific theory or hypothesis. Such evidence is generally expected to be empirical and properly documented in accordance with scientific method such as is applicable to the particular field of inquiry. Standards for evidence may vary according to whether the field of inquiry is among the natural sciences or social sciences[citation needed]. Evidence may involve understanding all steps of a process, or one or a few observations, or observation and statistical analysis of many samples without necessarily understanding the mechanism.
If you don't even know the right questions to ask, you aren't going to get the right answers.
Now -- as I said elsewhere, this has been interesting and fun, but too time-consuming. I won't be responding further.
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True, but that does leave open top-secret vehicles either piloted by humans or controlled remotely.
greyl
Dec 2011
#5
Hmm....interesting point! But I admit I have trouble thinking that direction. Maybe too logical!
Logical
Dec 2011
#11
Thanks! Well here's a really simple experiment, anybody curious can do it in two days.
napoleon_in_rags
Dec 2011
#12
No, I can't. Perhaps a study of Carl Jung would answer that for you -- ?? nt
Remember Me
Dec 2011
#25
any system of knowledge that has endured for centuries ... has something to it.
napoleon_in_rags
Dec 2011
#29