9/11 Free Fall 7/18/13: Dr. deHaven-Smith and "conspiracy theory"

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46. It is hardly an argument from incredulity to ask you to document your claims

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I do not "enjoy" wading through the contradictory and inconclusive claims on the internet about these tapes, especially when the truths I uncover are likely to be buried under untrue spam.

If you have evidence that after Mr. Mueller's address at the Commonwealth Club that al Qaeda paper documenting al Qaeda's participation in 9/11 was produced, please provide it.

First you claimed (post 41) that "Abu Zubaydah had already named KSM as the 9/11 planner a few months before Fouda's interview (without waterboarding, btw)" and then you admit (post 45) that the only evidence you can find to support that proposition is that the the June 2 2002 NYT article said that KSM's "importance was confirmed recently by Abu Zubaydah" but did not say that Zubaydah had named KSM as the 9/11 "mastermind."

You cite as authority for your claim (post 41) that KSM's "involvement in 9/11 is also established by stuff found on his computer when he was captured and by eavesdropped telephone conversations" nothing but an npr article that established nothing of the sort. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120822713 It merely makes the empty cvlaim that "U.S. agents seized a hard drive with details about the four airplanes hijacked on Sept. 11, along with other data about the hijackers and even transcripts of a chat session with at least one of the hijackers, according to a U.S. government filing. The drive also contained three letters from Osama bin Laden." No source for this allegation is cited, not even anonymous sources. The article even warns about the unreliability of such claims:

"Computer and e-mail data is so easily tampered with and changed, and it's so hard to prove it hasn't been," says Michael Scharf, a war crimes and national security law expert at Case Western Reserve University School of Law. "Even if it isn't excluded, there will be an argument about reliability."

I'm familiar with Osama's 2004 "confession" video, having seen it on US news in its timeframe just before the 2004 elections. Having seen plenty of George W. Bushes, Frankensteins, and Lady Gagas walking around last October 31st, I am slow to take that tape at face value.