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20. Yes, of course I can tell what sign you are
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 03:41 PM
Dec 2011

You were born under the sign of: Jerk. -- just kidding. Don't alert, really, it's just a joke.

* There is no force, known or unknown, that could possibly affect us here on Earth the way astrologers claim.

Uh, no. There is no force that YOU know of. There is no force currently understood by our Newtonian scientists. (I suspect quantum scientists are quite a bit closer.)

* Astrologers tend to rely on our ability to remember hits and forget misses. Even an accurate prediction may be simple chance.

Well, that's your interpretation, which I consider as accurate as anything else you've so far said. Astrologers don't even give such a thing a thought -- they don't need to. CHARLATANS and scam artists might, but they're very few and far between among astrologers because the payout just isn't there.

* Study after study has shown that claims and predictions made by astrologers have no merit. They are indistinguishable from chance, which means astrologers cannot claim to have some ability to predict your life's path.

Well, from my perspective, prediction is difficult -- it helps if the astrologer is part psychic and many are. Prediction is difficult because the various parts and pieces can all mean so many different things. I'll explain a little more about that in a minute. First let me dispense with this little bit of nonsense:

* There is harm, real harm, in astrology. It weakens further people's ability to rationally look at the world, an ability we need now more than ever.

And *I* believe we need the transcendent, the subjective, the heart-centered, the soul-centered, the numinous, the mysterious, the unexplained and unexplainable, in short the spiritual more than ever. It is our over-reliance on rationality at the expense of listening to and heeding our hearts and souls that has led us to where we are today. YMMV, of course. And part of that is becausse we are more than our rational minds: we are Spirit having a physical existence. We cut off our connection to Source at our own peril, and that's what a 100% adherence to and reliance on the purely rational will do for you. Rational + Subjective = Whole Brain. They are both needed, even in the strictest scientific settings.

Nor is there any evidence at all that your fear of astrology rotting practitioners' or followers' minds has any merit whatsoever.

See my next post for more on predictability and repeatability.

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“For those who believe Danchi Dec 2011 #1
Well, not a god believer either, And I disagree with your statement..... Logical Dec 2011 #2
We'll need a better definition for UFOs. greyl Dec 2011 #3
Good point, I just assume UFO means alien controlled vehicles. Logical Dec 2011 #4
True, but that does leave open top-secret vehicles either piloted by humans or controlled remotely. greyl Dec 2011 #5
LOL...good one! Logical Dec 2011 #6
What is a UFO Larry L. Burks Dec 2011 #7
They are similar to Higgs Boson The Straight Story Dec 2011 #8
Excellent response. frogmarch Dec 2011 #9
What does proof mean? Look at astrology. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2011 #10
Hmm....interesting point! But I admit I have trouble thinking that direction. Maybe too logical! Logical Dec 2011 #11
Thanks! Well here's a really simple experiment, anybody curious can do it in two days. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2011 #12
You start off pretty good, for an amateur Remember Me Dec 2011 #13
Is it possible it has endured for centuries because... zappaman Dec 2011 #14
No, that's not possible Remember Me Dec 2011 #15
uh huh zappaman Dec 2011 #16
Yes, of course I can tell what sign you are Remember Me Dec 2011 #20
Predictability, repeatability, etc. Remember Me Dec 2011 #23
Double blind experiments are possible with astrology. Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #24
Oh Remember Me Dec 2011 #26
Gaugelin? zappaman Dec 2011 #27
Does Astrology work in other solar systems? greyl Dec 2011 #17
If other solar systems have sentient beings who Remember Me Dec 2011 #18
Does your own explanation satisfy your curiosity? greyl Dec 2011 #19
LOL -- I don't have any curiosity about other solar systems Remember Me Dec 2011 #21
Can you say a little bit about the forces known to expert astrologers greyl Dec 2011 #22
No, I can't. Perhaps a study of Carl Jung would answer that for you -- ?? nt Remember Me Dec 2011 #25
Perhaps you can direct me to where Jung answered my questions. nt greyl Dec 2011 #28
any system of knowledge that has endured for centuries ... has something to it. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2011 #29
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