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In reply to the discussion: 9/11 Debunked: "Molten Metal" Explained [View all]AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)102. Ok, where's the stalagmite?
Where's a photo of it? Where's his analysis of what the metal that comprised that stalagmite is?
I say Glanz is, at best, mistaken.
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Um, perfectly reasonable that some windows would be blown out and not others.
AtheistCrusader
Jul 2013
#21
"air handling systems of the two towers had interconnections in the basement..."
gyroscope
Jul 2013
#22
And as I mentioned earlier, no thermite or thermate is visible burning in the building during
AtheistCrusader
Jul 2013
#40
Actually, good sized demo projects often have water sprayed on the rubble for some time.
AtheistCrusader
Jul 2013
#50
What kind of metal do you think they were talking about when the claims of molten metal were made?
AtheistCrusader
Jul 2013
#57
Most of the eyewitnesses on film say 'molten metal', not 'molten steel'.
AtheistCrusader
Jul 2013
#59
Actually, the remains of the metal itself demonstrates it adequately for me.
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#89
Yes, because you are using 'melted' deliberatedly when the correct word is eroded or corroded.
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#113
Tell me, what does a POOL of molten metal that is 'vaporized' look like?
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#124
You deliberately conflate 2 separate accounts to create false contradictions nt
Ace Acme
Oct 2013
#130
Pools of molten steel was a topic of this thread fork, if you scroll up, before you barged in.
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#155
I have looked at that photo you linked, plus the ones I provided, and about 10 more that neither of
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#159
Slagged steel is the intermediary step between steel beams and the alleged stalagmite
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#171
The evidence of a steel stalagmite is the NYT article written by a PhD astrophysicist
Ace Acme
Oct 2013
#174
Astaneh's photos do not show material that could have produced an alleged stalagmite.
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#200
Not my job. It's Jones's job to establish that it is real, and bring it to sources that can
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#211
He hasn't provided what he purports to be the only phyiscal pieces of evidence
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#216
So contact Jones and prove that he CAN'T produce the sample of the melted iron.
Ace Acme
Oct 2013
#220
I refer you to post 161 in which you claim slag running down channel rails.
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#198
Captain Philip Ruvolo, FDNY, claims molten steel running down the channel rails. nt
Ace Acme
Oct 2013
#203
Which of course, humans can detect the chemical composition of with the naked eye.
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#205
Generally untrue, with a couple narrow exceptions; tells that are not present
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#212
It's been several years since I read that part, which is buried deep in the third volume
Ace Acme
Oct 2013
#77
Dr. Astaneh's opinions about truthers are irrelevant to the fact that he saw melting of girders
Ace Acme
Oct 2013
#85
Those photos aren't 'not good enough' they are not of the same thing at all.
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#96
Those photos are of partially melted steel girders and partially evaporated steel girders. nt
Ace Acme
Oct 2013
#97
Look at the "Material Recovery Report" by Professor Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl, fig 10 photo nt
Ace Acme
Oct 2013
#127
It does, if you intend to show dripping beams, pools, stalagmites, etc.
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#133
Then why did you jump into this thread fork which was previously about items like
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#138
If you haven't seen the pictures years ago you must have been hiding under a rock.
Ace Acme
Oct 2013
#143
No, I'm looking for evidence that supports the OTHER claims you referenced.
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2013
#248
There is an alleged sample, unproven 12 YEARS after, zero photos and a couple allegations.
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2013
#250
The "alleged" samples are pictured in FEMA Appendix C and have been seen on BBC TV.
Ace Acme
Nov 2013
#251
'melted' in the manner you showed doesn't produce running channels full of molten steel or stalgmite
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2013
#252
I asked for evidence of steel that could produce the alleged stalagmite for which
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2013
#254
I provided the evidence. Eyewitness testimony from Captain Philip Ruvolo, FDNY,
Ace Acme
Nov 2013
#255
NIST doesn't prove their theories. Their core steel samples do not show heating
Ace Acme
Nov 2013
#257
Your demands for proof are disingenuous when you do not demand proof from NIST.
Ace Acme
Nov 2013
#259
Eyewitness testimony is evidence. Your efforts to deny that would get you laughed out of court.
Ace Acme
Nov 2013
#263
My mistake. One Reaper drone costs $30 million. Or a Chinook helicopter. Sue me.
Ace Acme
Oct 2013
#149
I spend my time arguing with creationists. You're welcome. If not, their bullshit would be in textbo
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#172
You have provided zero facts, and nothing but unsubstantiated allegations.
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#179
5 PHD's that offered no evidence, and no means by which they identified the allegedly
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#183
Yes, there is a need for it. Because without it, you have no evidence beyond Glanz's claim
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#195
There are no photos or samples that link steel beams to a steel stalagmite.
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#213
The stalagmite hasn't been established AS steel. The beams do not show the type of melting that
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#219
If you'd ever cut steel with any heat source, you'd know the self-evident answer to that question.
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#231
Clearly you have not, or you wouldn't be pretending that the beam resembles
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#233
Keep pretending. I would too, if I was invested in an idea and boxed into a corner.
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#235
I'm pointing at photos that show melted steel. "Slagged" is your phony specification,
Ace Acme
Nov 2013
#240
You're showing eroded beams that have no connection whatsoever with a stalagmite.
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2013
#241
A lie. Produce the assay of Dr. Jones claim of 'formerly molten ingot'.
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2013
#245
There is nothing false about my analogies. They illustrate the flaws in your reasoning.
Ace Acme
Nov 2013
#246
It is insulting to use the epithet "conspiracy theorists" on almost every text panel.
BlueStreak
Oct 2013
#109