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15. No, that's not possible
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 12:47 AM
Dec 2011

Sorry.

I took a look at your "science" out of curiosity -- I can't get past the first real paragraph, which has this in it:

Some of the claims they make are inherently contradictory (some say the moment of birth is important, others say it's the month, etc.)...

Wrong. They are both important. The day too. The place as well. You can pull that apart and call it "contradictory" or you can learn enough about it -- which this author clearly hasn't -- to understand how it works before trying to criticize it.

Not a very good start for a so-called SCIENTIST.


but they all operate under a very broad working assumption: there is some sort of force from the heavens that influences us here on Earth.

Uh, not really. It could be synchronicity. Astrologers don't spend a lot of time trying to figure that out ("that" being why astrology works). They prefer to spend their time with the what -- what the various symbols reveal.

Carl Jung, one of the first psychiatrists and the famous founder of analytical psychology, studied astrology himself and talked about synchronicity -- "acausal connection of two or more psycho-physic phenomena." (You should read the client case that prompted this: http://www.carl-jung.net/synchronicity.html )

Or. here's this more accessible explanation from Wikipedia:

Jung coined the word to describe what he called "temporally coincident occurrences of acausal events." Jung variously described synchronicity as an "acausal connecting principle", "meaningful coincidence" and "acausal parallelism". Jung introduced the concept as early as the 1920s but only gave a full statement of it in 1951 in an Eranos lecture[3] and in 1952, published a paper, Synchronizität als ein Prinzip akausaler Zusammenhänge (Synchronicity — An Acausal Connecting Principle)[4], in a volume with a related study by the physicist (and Nobel laureate) Wolfgang Pauli.[5]

It was a principle that Jung felt gave conclusive evidence for his concepts of archetypes and the collective unconscious,[6] in that it was descriptive of a governing dynamic that underlies the whole of human experience and history—social, emotional, psychological, and spiritual. Concurrent events that first appear to be coincidental but later turn out to be causally related are termed incoincident.

Jung believed that many experiences that are coincidences due to chance in terms of causality suggested the manifestation of parallel events or circumstances in terms of meaning, reflecting this governing dynamic.[7]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronicity

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“For those who believe Danchi Dec 2011 #1
Well, not a god believer either, And I disagree with your statement..... Logical Dec 2011 #2
We'll need a better definition for UFOs. greyl Dec 2011 #3
Good point, I just assume UFO means alien controlled vehicles. Logical Dec 2011 #4
True, but that does leave open top-secret vehicles either piloted by humans or controlled remotely. greyl Dec 2011 #5
LOL...good one! Logical Dec 2011 #6
What is a UFO Larry L. Burks Dec 2011 #7
They are similar to Higgs Boson The Straight Story Dec 2011 #8
Excellent response. frogmarch Dec 2011 #9
What does proof mean? Look at astrology. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2011 #10
Hmm....interesting point! But I admit I have trouble thinking that direction. Maybe too logical! Logical Dec 2011 #11
Thanks! Well here's a really simple experiment, anybody curious can do it in two days. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2011 #12
You start off pretty good, for an amateur Remember Me Dec 2011 #13
Is it possible it has endured for centuries because... zappaman Dec 2011 #14
No, that's not possible Remember Me Dec 2011 #15
uh huh zappaman Dec 2011 #16
Yes, of course I can tell what sign you are Remember Me Dec 2011 #20
Predictability, repeatability, etc. Remember Me Dec 2011 #23
Double blind experiments are possible with astrology. Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #24
Oh Remember Me Dec 2011 #26
Gaugelin? zappaman Dec 2011 #27
Does Astrology work in other solar systems? greyl Dec 2011 #17
If other solar systems have sentient beings who Remember Me Dec 2011 #18
Does your own explanation satisfy your curiosity? greyl Dec 2011 #19
LOL -- I don't have any curiosity about other solar systems Remember Me Dec 2011 #21
Can you say a little bit about the forces known to expert astrologers greyl Dec 2011 #22
No, I can't. Perhaps a study of Carl Jung would answer that for you -- ?? nt Remember Me Dec 2011 #25
Perhaps you can direct me to where Jung answered my questions. nt greyl Dec 2011 #28
any system of knowledge that has endured for centuries ... has something to it. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2011 #29
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