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Ace Acme

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55. Actually, there are no photos of fires in WTC7 until noon, and those fires didn't last

Wed Oct 23, 2013, 06:12 PM

Oct 2013

NIST tells us that fires persisted on only 6 floors, and photos of those are only available starting at 2:00 (floors 7, 11,12)
at 2:30 (13), 3:40 (8) and 4:00 (9).

So rather than 7-hour fires there's evidence for 3-1/2 hour fires.

Since 9/11 of course we've had spectacular high-rise fires in Shanghai, Beijing, Dubai, Moscow, and Grozny. None of those buildings fell down. I guess we just build shoddy buildings in NYC, right?

The Madrid tower was under construction, so the steel had no fireproofing at all. WTC7 had fire ratings of 2 hours and 3 hours--and NIST tells us that office fires burn only 30 minutes in one place until all the fuel is consumed.

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The Official Video: ReThink911 September 2013 [View all] damnedifIknow Jul 2013 OP

thanks and k & r! eom wildbilln864 Jul 2013 #1

Interesting.. truebrit71 Jul 2013 #2

LOL, only 30% of people still have questions about 9/11? Big deal. 30% of Americans.... Logical Jul 2013 #3

"That means 70% of Americans think it is full of crap" - no it doesn't ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #7

LOL, ok, 30% is a lot. n-t Logical Jul 2013 #8

Yep. It is a lot. Practically 1 in each 3 individuals. n/t ocpagu Jul 2013 #17

LOL, 30% of people believe Cloud Computing involves actual Clouds..... Logical Jul 2013 #19

Only 1% of Americans have PhDs Ace Acme Oct 2013 #53

the k Berlum Jul 2013 #4

According to the engineers that studied WTC 7 cpwm17 Jul 2013 #5

What is the "engineering and scientific community"? ocpagu Jul 2013 #18

A couple – not even close cpwm17 Jul 2013 #47

Right. ocpagu Jul 2013 #48

Not everyone who does any work for the US Government is in on some big conspiracy cpwm17 Jul 2013 #49

One problem is that the computer models show the building folding up like a wet paper bag Ace Acme Oct 2013 #54

"Rethink" Richard Gage's version of 9/11? Why? William Seger Jul 2013 #6

Not only the event of 9/11 damnedifIknow Jul 2013 #9

All the more reason... William Seger Jul 2013 #10

We've never...... Frank_Norris_Lives Jul 2013 #11

Because we've never... William Seger Jul 2013 #12

Actually..... Frank_Norris_Lives Jul 2013 #13

We've never had 767s flying at 500+ mph... William Seger Jul 2013 #14

You're right! Frank_Norris_Lives Jul 2013 #20

Friction. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #23

Undoubtedly there is.... Frank_Norris_Lives Jul 2013 #36

Where else COULD it smoulder? AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #37

Damn, my scoutmaster lied to me.... Frank_Norris_Lives Jul 2013 #41

Your scoutmaster is the reason people will run over a pit full of hot coals with their car AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #43

Fire is hot, water is wet, and other revelations William Seger Jul 2013 #26

As I have sworn.... Frank_Norris_Lives Jul 2013 #35

He clearly made a mistake about that paper, but AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #38

WTF? William Seger Jul 2013 #39

Here's evidence-based... Frank_Norris_Lives Jul 2013 #40

It must be hard to find evidence when you deliberately avoid it William Seger Jul 2013 #42

That's not actually paper anymore. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #44

I've heard that claim, too, but I don't think so William Seger Jul 2013 #45

Oh, that's a good point. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #46

Untrue. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #16

Back at you bro..... Frank_Norris_Lives Jul 2013 #21

Again, all the steel framed components exposed to fire in Madrid Tower collapsed 3 hours into the AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #22

Actually, there are no photos of fires in WTC7 until noon, and those fires didn't last Ace Acme Oct 2013 #55

Cite your spectacular high rise fires, building by building. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #57

And even fought by 600 firefighters it was a conflagration and burned all night Ace Acme Oct 2013 #58

You apparently never saw the side of the building facing the main towers. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #59

Yes I saw it, and unlike you I didn't believe the people who lie about it Ace Acme Oct 2013 #60

Talk of explosions is not verboten, and never was. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #62

NIST's discounting of charges was based on the use of RDX, Ace Acme Oct 2013 #64

RDX is a common and widely available explosive, with similar properites to many other explosives. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #66

Why would you expect first-class demolitionists to use WWII-era explosives? Ace Acme Oct 2013 #67

damnedifiknow - Just so you're aware... truth2power Jul 2013 #15

There are sites where 9/11 bullshit goes unchallenged William Seger Jul 2013 #24

From your mouth to God's ear, of course. truth2power Jul 2013 #25

You've seen Gage's "scientific" treatment of the issue William Seger Jul 2013 #27

William... truth2power Jul 2013 #31

So much for "honest discussion" William Seger Jul 2013 #33

I used to say that also when people disagreed with me LanternWaste Sep 2013 #51

It's not just about honest disagreement. i'm sure you know that... truth2power Sep 2013 #52

K&R Over the years since 9/11 I've gone from snappyturtle Jul 2013 #28

In other words, you've been propagandized William Seger Jul 2013 #29

Au contraire! THanks for the links...I've been to 3 of the snappyturtle Jul 2013 #30

Thanks, snappyturtle, for not taking the bait. As you said, so succinctly... truth2power Jul 2013 #32

"Take your best shot" = "bait" ? William Seger Jul 2013 #34

Popular Mechanics? Ace Acme Oct 2013 #56

Yes, Popular Mechanics William Seger Oct 2013 #61

They were straw man arguments Ace Acme Oct 2013 #63

Which "legiimate truth movement" is that? William Seger Oct 2013 #65

You've never heard of the 9/11 Truth Statement? You haven't read the Bronner VF article? Ace Acme Oct 2013 #68

HAHAHA!!! n/t Bully Taw Aug 2013 #50