Creative Speculation
In reply to the discussion: Here's a correction OP for 50 Reasons, 50 Years OP [View all]William Seger
(11,031 posts)> Only one bullet was established as having been fired from the Mannlicher-Carcano and that was CE399, the so-called "magic bullet".
The Warren Commission and the HSCA were acting in good faith on the neutron activation analysis that said the bullet fragments found in the limo (presumably from the fatal shot) were from the same batch as the "magic" bullet and thus were probably fired from the same gun. A recent study found that that conclusion is not as statistically reliable as the WC and HSCA assumed it was, but contrary to popular opinion among conspiracists, that study did not find any reason to believe that the shot was from a second shooter; it simply said the neutron activation analysis couldn't conclusively rule out that possibility. Once again, you have come up short in actual evidence and attempt to substitute unsubstantiated speculation.
> From all appearances it looks as if it had been fired into a bucket of water, and the government's top ballistics expert told them exactly that (the Warren Commission did not ask him to testify and instead found a more compliant witness). CE399 is alleged to have made seven wounds, shattered a rib, and smashed into a wrist bone which is one of the densest in the human body.
Speculate and spin away, but the single-bullet theory remains the best explanation of the facts. Sorry, but anyone who claims that the bullet could have been flattened on its side from being fired into a bucket of water is an unconvincing "expert." That flattened side is better explained by the theory that it was tumbling after passing through JFK -- a theory that is further substantiated by the elongated wounds in Connally's back and chest, which conspiracists apparently prefer to ignore since it supports the SBT. The irony is that conspiracists denigrate the SBT as the "magic" bullet theory, and then offer all sorts of alternative explanations that would involve magic disappearing bullets, magic curving bullet paths, magic disappearing shooters, and/or psychic conspirators who knew that Connally would end up with a shallow entrance wound with no bullet in it.
> No recreation of the shooting has ever been able to even come close to producing the lack of damage seen on CE399. Without exception, the bullets have been mangled after striking bone or bone facsimile.
In the first place, that claim simple isn't true -- there have been experiments that showed similar results.
The fact that CE-399 wasn't duplicated in the studies you are referring to is unremarkable, considering that those recreations also didn't come close to actually recreating the SBT path through JFK's neck first, which would have slowed the bullet by about half and also set it tumbling before entering Connally. Once again, instead of actual evidence, you substitute speculation about how the bullet "ought" to have looked, and that speculation doesn't even take into account all of the factors involved.
> You continue to present an interpretation of the fatal shot based on an appeal to higher knowledge ("real physics" , and yet curtly dismissed the findings of a woman with decades of experience in wound ballistics.
And that would be because I can't find any indication whatsoever that she knows what she's talking about, which makes it difficult to be impressed by her credentials. Specifically, her offering of videos of gelatin bulging slightly in the direction a bullet came from tells me that she doesn't seem to even be aware of the 2.5" forward head-snap under discussion, much less does she have any physics-based explanation for it. On the other hand, I have repeatedly shown you what I found in my own examination of the film and I have given you simple and irrefutable reasoning for what the film actually shows about the immediate forward head-snap and the later back-and-to-the-left movement. Furthermore, I have provide you with a link to an extremely detailed study done by an actual physicist who noticed the same thing and analyzed it using real physics. You are the one in denial, with nothing to cling to but your classic "appeal to authority" fallacy.
> Dr Perry did not come to some new understanding of the throat wound through some collegial discussions with Dr Humes - he told others at the hospital that he got no sleep on the Friday night because he was constantly getting phone calls from Washington pressuring him to change his opinion. Later, a Secret Service agent named Moore was assigned to Dallas to strong-arm Perry into changing his opinion ahead of appearing before the Warren Commission (Moore was successful). The Humes story of a gradual understanding of the throat wound is a lie - as the Bethesda doctors had been told before the autopsy began that the Parklands doctors had identified an entrance wound in the throat. The Bethesda autopsy doctors never tracked the wound from back to front - as is standard protocol and in fact a legal requirement - and they were in fact expressly ordered not to do so. Along with the planting of CE399, that fact is primary proof of both a conspiracy and cover-up.
Yes, I'm aware of how conspiracists interpret what happened when they view it through their conspiracy-colored bias, but the subject at hand is, what can you actually prove that contradicts the Warren Commission findings? Once again, the answer is that speculation and spin are all you really have.