Creative Speculation

The Doctor.

(17,266 posts)

52. Well, he wants it both ways.

Mon Oct 29, 2012, 02:16 AM

Oct 2012

He wants the video to represent proof of bin Laden's involvement without the FBI, which can authoritatively identify 'proof', I suspect, considering it 'proof'.

That was the point I was making even in the other thread.

The more I see the OV adherents desperately avoiding simple reality (like... that the FBI knows proof when it sees it), the more certain I am that they are wrong.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

97 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Osama Confession Video [View all] cpwm17 Oct 2012 OP

One way or another, we're being lied to. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #1

Osama and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed were happy to take credit for 9-11 cpwm17 Oct 2012 #2

Wow. Nice attempt to sidestep reason. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #3

Your argument is based on who has the motivation to lie cpwm17 Oct 2012 #6

If I go into your house, The Doctor. Oct 2012 #8

Since when did I call the video itself hard evidence that Osama did 9-11? cpwm17 Oct 2012 #10

Again, you use troll tactics. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #11

Actually, no nano-thermite was found at the site. zappaman Oct 2012 #12

Unlike the poor sods out there who believe the garbage in your link, The Doctor. Oct 2012 #13

Read it when it came out zappaman Oct 2012 #14

Insinuation without links, evidence, or excerpts is a troll tactic. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #41

You read the entire document William Seger Oct 2012 #16

Really? Which page and paragraph? The Doctor. Oct 2012 #19

Google is your friend William Seger Oct 2012 #20

Awesome! The Doctor. Oct 2012 #22

I'll take that as a concession William Seger Oct 2012 #29

You're a constant source of amusement. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #31

So, you didn't read post #16, huh? William Seger Oct 2012 #34

You mean the post where you make a bunch of assertions The Doctor. Oct 2012 #37

Hmmmm.. William Seger Oct 2012 #42

The reason you shouldn't bother is either that you can't find them, The Doctor. Oct 2012 #47

What a pantload William Seger Oct 2012 #48

Amazing. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #51

LMFAO! William Seger Oct 2012 #55

So I say 'you have nothing', and ask for the *actual* refutations of the paper.... The Doctor. Oct 2012 #65

I see you didn't take my advice. What a surprise. William Seger Oct 2012 #69

Your 'advice' is irrelevant. I want links. You don't have them. The Doctor. Nov 2012 #74

Who do you think you're kidding? You apparently don't read links William Seger Nov 2012 #81

William says the video is not hard evidence. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #9

"It appears your argument is with him, not me." William Seger Oct 2012 #17

We got here because in another thread I said that there is no hard evidence The Doctor. Oct 2012 #18

"There is no 'evidence' of a confession" ?! William Seger Oct 2012 #21

It's a simple question: The Doctor. Oct 2012 #23

I called it a confession video because that is what it has already been called. cpwm17 Oct 2012 #24

You seem conflicted. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #25

You seem to be having difficulty with the English Language and very simple concepts. cpwm17 Oct 2012 #30

Strange question William Seger Oct 2012 #27

I'm just trying to get a clear answer. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #33

I'm beginning to think your main problem is reading comprehension William Seger Oct 2012 #35

So a video of someone bragging about comitting a crime is not hard evidence? The Doctor. Oct 2012 #38

BY ITSELF, the video "proves" nothing William Seger Oct 2012 #43

Here in reality, people are indicted, tried, and convicted on the strength The Doctor. Oct 2012 #45

Your faulty logic, arrogant assertions, and outright distortions of what's been said in this thread William Seger Oct 2012 #49

Calling a duck a tank doesn't make it one. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #53

Oh, so you think maybe bin Laden might have painted the buildings with exploding paint? William Seger Oct 2012 #56

More bullshit. How tiresome. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #66

More irony. How humorous. William Seger Oct 2012 #72

Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #75

Why would I alert on your funniest post yet? William Seger Nov 2012 #80

"The Doctor" is no longer with us. Quantess Dec 2012 #88

What.... Frank_Norris_Lives Dec 2012 #89

Where to begin? Quantess Dec 2012 #90

Was it this.... Frank_Norris_Lives Dec 2012 #91

Check out Meta-discussion cpwm17 Dec 2012 #93

Ok... Frank_Norris_Lives Dec 2012 #92

"Facts" ? William Seger Oct 2012 #5

LMAO! You've just proven beyond doubt that you can't be taken seriously. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #7

What you just did there is called "logical reasoning" huh? William Seger Oct 2012 #15

Again, you fail. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #26

Again, you fail to provide any cogent response to valid criticism William Seger Oct 2012 #28

If you want to provide a 'cogent' argument, The Doctor. Oct 2012 #32

Thanks again William Seger Oct 2012 #36

This should be amusing. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #39

Why should I expect that explaining it a fourth time would make a difference? William Seger Oct 2012 #44

Yer just about off the deep end here. I don't recall telling Tombs anything in person. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #46

Yes, you've convinced me that you'll keep repeating the same nonsense over and over William Seger Oct 2012 #59

If the FBI says it's not hard evidence, then it's a fact. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #67

That's rather authoritarian of you to accept the FBI so righteously, The Doctor. Bolo Boffin Oct 2012 #68

So now you believe there is a conspiracy theory that the FBI dismisses hard evidence? The Doctor. Nov 2012 #76

That video was shot with a PAL-format camera William Seger Oct 2012 #4

So I state in another thread that the FBI does not consider this video The Doctor. Oct 2012 #40

William Seger doesn't agree with you at all cpwm17 Oct 2012 #50

Well, he wants it both ways. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #52

All of you have a good point Spoopy Oct 2012 #54

You're using reason. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #58

Oh, bullshit William Seger Oct 2012 #60

You've divested yourself of the reality upon which my reasoning was based. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #64

Huh. You already asked him that. AZCat Oct 2012 #70

In the first place, "confession" should be in quotes William Seger Oct 2012 #71

So the video is not a confession? The Doctor. Nov 2012 #73

LOL, what about your "logical reasoning" that the video was fake? (n/t) William Seger Nov 2012 #82

All you have is an ambiguous statement spoken by an single FBI agent, cpwm17 Oct 2012 #61

Ambiguous? Are you that fucking stupid? The Doctor. Nov 2012 #77

Incredible claims require incredible evidence cpwm17 Nov 2012 #83

You are using the argument from authority cpwm17 Oct 2012 #57

If you can't understand the words "hard evidence" when they are put together, The Doctor. Nov 2012 #79

You've gone out of your way to avoid discussing your evidence for CD's cpwm17 Nov 2012 #85

Wait.... Frank_Norris_Lives Oct 2012 #62

At first, when Osama thought his ass was on the line, he said he didn't do it. cpwm17 Oct 2012 #63

Oh, Awesome! So when did he claim responsibility? The Doctor. Nov 2012 #78

I already showed you a link concerning Osama's claims of responsibility for 9-11 cpwm17 Nov 2012 #84

That explanation seems... Frank_Norris_Lives Nov 2012 #86

Osama did publicly take credit for 9-11. cpwm17 Nov 2012 #87

Room for doubt Spoopy Dec 2012 #94

As I wrote above, the "Confession Video" wasn't the only time Osama talked of his involvement cpwm17 Dec 2012 #95

Except there was no evidence that words were was bin Laden's... KDLarsen Dec 2012 #96

That interview was filed on 28th September 2001 cpwm17 Dec 2012 #97