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In reply to the discussion: Osama Confession Video [View all]The Doctor.
(17,266 posts)11. Again, you use troll tactics.
I never said that mere 'thermite' was found in the debris.
It is a simple fact that 'nano-thermite' was found in the debris.
Here are the tactics that trolls use:
Someone says that nano-thermite was found in the debris. The troll says, "Thermite can't be used for demolition." This is a clever troll tactic because it is true that thermite cannot be used for demolition, and the average audience will miss the sleight of mind the troll is using on them. So then the troll gets corrected and told, "No, I did not say "thermite", I said "nano-thermite" which can be used in demolition."
At this point, the troll's true colors will be revealed.
If the troll says, "Oh, I didn't realize that. Can you please give me more information?" Then they may not actually be a troll.
If, otoh, the troll changes the subject to another canard, or shows up in other threads and continues to use that misinformation tactic of deliberately misstating what was found in the debris, then they have left no doubt that their motivation is to quash discussion through deliberate deception.
That is one of the definitions of 'trolling'.
In that other thread, the troll in question used the well-worn canard that what was thought to be nano-thermite was actually 'paint chips'. I explained that paint chips were indeed found in the same debris that the nano-thermite was found in and that it was also tested and showed very non-thermitic characteristics, while the nano-thermite was unquestionably nano-thermite. By way of explanation, I posted links to the original documents the 9 scientists composed from their study.
Despite the explanation, despite being given access to the information, the troll continued to lie and claim that only paint chips were found.
You posted a video backing up your claim that the CIA didn't 'fake' it. I said, "okay, I'm willing to believe that". Do you know why? Because I'm rational, reasonable, and empirical.
Trolls are none of those things.
You yourself can go to that thread, pull up the links, study the documents and then make a choice: create a conspiracy theory that scientists from many different parts of the world faked their findings despite the fact that samples of the debris are in laboratories everywhere and ready for testing at any time...
-Or-
You can acknowledge that nano-thermite was found in the debris.
One of those choices will indicate very clearly that you are here to troll rather than engage in honest discussion.
So which is it?
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So I say 'you have nothing', and ask for the *actual* refutations of the paper....
The Doctor.
Oct 2012
#65
We got here because in another thread I said that there is no hard evidence
The Doctor.
Oct 2012
#18
You seem to be having difficulty with the English Language and very simple concepts.
cpwm17
Oct 2012
#30
So a video of someone bragging about comitting a crime is not hard evidence?
The Doctor.
Oct 2012
#38
Your faulty logic, arrogant assertions, and outright distortions of what's been said in this thread
William Seger
Oct 2012
#49
Oh, so you think maybe bin Laden might have painted the buildings with exploding paint?
William Seger
Oct 2012
#56
Why should I expect that explaining it a fourth time would make a difference?
William Seger
Oct 2012
#44
Yer just about off the deep end here. I don't recall telling Tombs anything in person.
The Doctor.
Oct 2012
#46
Yes, you've convinced me that you'll keep repeating the same nonsense over and over
William Seger
Oct 2012
#59
That's rather authoritarian of you to accept the FBI so righteously, The Doctor.
Bolo Boffin
Oct 2012
#68
So now you believe there is a conspiracy theory that the FBI dismisses hard evidence?
The Doctor.
Nov 2012
#76
If you can't understand the words "hard evidence" when they are put together,
The Doctor.
Nov 2012
#79
I already showed you a link concerning Osama's claims of responsibility for 9-11
cpwm17
Nov 2012
#84