Creative Speculation

OnTheOtherHand

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40. based on what evidence?

Sat Jan 14, 2012, 10:48 AM

Jan 2012

As far as I can tell from your posts, you still seem to be relying on the animation, which makes no sense. Not only does the animation demonstrably not agree with the FDR data on which it is purported to be based, but I'd be pretty startled if it had accurate 3-D rendering of the light poles. How can you purport to know that "the aircraft is too high in the air to contact the poles"?

You're up against considerable eyewitness evidence, not to mention the physical evidence of the poles being downed; I haven't seen you offer an alternative explanation for any of this.

Hmm, I wonder what David Chandler and Jon Cole think about this?

http://911blogger.com/news/2011-01-01/joint-statement-pentagon-david-chandler-and-jon-cole

It would be hypocritical of me to quote David Chandler as an authority on anything, but it's interesting to think about.

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American 77 flight path dilemma (Pentagon attack) [View all] gyroscope Jan 2012 OP

There's also about 12 witnesses who say 'the plane' flew North of the Citgo gas station antitsa Jan 2012 #1

Which is consistent with the NTSB flight path gyroscope Jan 2012 #2

Yes, the official Pentagon story is pure bunkum. nt antitsa Jan 2012 #4

which part is "pure bunkum"? zappaman Jan 2012 #5

'77' didn't fly that day Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2012 #46

It didn't? zappaman Mar 2012 #47

so, what is it you are getting at? zappaman Jan 2012 #3

Who knows if it did or not gyroscope Jan 2012 #6

"Who knows if it did or not " zappaman Jan 2012 #8

I know you love putting words in people's mouths gyroscope Jan 2012 #10

sorry zappaman Jan 2012 #12

I don't know what hit the Pentagon gyroscope Jan 2012 #14

"but what kind of aircraft is the question." zappaman Jan 2012 #16

... ocpagu Jan 2012 #42

I speak for billions zappaman Jan 2012 #43

No. ocpagu Feb 2013 #48

billions...with a "b". n/t zappaman Feb 2013 #49

You wish ocpagu Feb 2013 #54

Poster apparentely accepts that a FDR can be dummied up and inserted into the wreckage AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #60

Sometimes participants in evil conspiracies do thing to sabotage those plots Ace Acme Oct 2013 #63

Then why don't we SEE a clear video of the crash Politicalboi Mar 2012 #44

"The Pentagon should have a lot of camera's that should have recorded the crash" zappaman Mar 2012 #45

Of course... ocpagu Feb 2013 #50

But they didn't. n/t zappaman Feb 2013 #51

Thank you Captain Obvious! ocpagu Feb 2013 #55

Your fallacies William Seger Feb 2013 #53

Yeah, sure. ocpagu Feb 2013 #56

From whence do you derive your intimate knowledge of the surveillance systems at the Pentagon? Ace Acme Oct 2013 #64

and for some reason the aa defences faild that day. Prog_gun_owner Mar 2013 #62

Looks like a plane imo Callmecrazy Feb 2013 #52

I should add gyroscope Jan 2012 #7

Oh, I see zappaman Jan 2012 #9

That appears to be the case gyroscope Jan 2012 #11

oh, really? zappaman Jan 2012 #13

The source is provided in the OP gyroscope Jan 2012 #17

Oh, PILOTS FOR TRUTH is the source? zappaman Jan 2012 #18

So according to you gyroscope Jan 2012 #20

actually, there have been some good discussions of this OnTheOtherHand Jan 2012 #21

So according to you zappaman Jan 2012 #22

That wasn't the question gyroscope Jan 2012 #25

If you "don't dispute that something hit the Pentagon" then... William Seger Jan 2012 #32

The flight recorder data shows otherwise gyroscope Jan 2012 #34

based on what evidence? OnTheOtherHand Jan 2012 #40

What?!? William Seger Jan 2012 #29

So what do the incomplete data blocks show? gyroscope Jan 2012 #33

You have a bad habit of digging your holes deeper William Seger Jan 2012 #35

Not necessarily gyroscope Jan 2012 #36

"the FDR continuing to record after impact" ? William Seger Jan 2012 #39

IMHO, that's the best part of this whole line of argument jberryhill Jan 2012 #41

One other big problem gyroscope Jan 2012 #37

You didn't even read the post I linked to William Seger Jan 2012 #38

This has been discussed before zappaman Jan 2012 #15

I see no mention of the flight data recorder gyroscope Jan 2012 #19

It isn't 2006 anymore William Seger Jan 2012 #23

Does DU have a rule against posting threads about Flight 77? gyroscope Jan 2012 #26

I think he was helpfully pointing out zappaman Jan 2012 #27

Thats your opinion gyroscope Jan 2012 #28

His is an INFORMED opinion William Seger Jan 2012 #31

He's an "informed opinion" for you. ocpagu Feb 2013 #57

For me too. And for most people who've gone through this madness in 2006. Democracyinkind Feb 2013 #58

I'm always surprised that there isn't a better video than the one's posted on Youtube or wherever. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #24

The footage they did release gyroscope Jan 2012 #30

Not releasing the videos accomplishes two things Ace Acme Oct 2013 #65

Wouldn't the wing hitting the light pole at 500 mph sever the wing and cause it to crash any way? Prog_gun_owner Feb 2013 #59

Define "long" sgsmith Feb 2013 #61