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Israel/Palestine

RockRaven

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1. Bullshit. For example, there's nothing "existential" about indifference to killing children

Reply to elias7 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2023, 12:46 AM

Dec 2023

as has been expressed by some posters on DU on this topic. And there is nothing "ideological" about opposition to the same -- perhaps "moral" is a better word for that.

This framing is facile and reductive.

It's a fucking complicated mess and a fuckton of people are biased to hell and back, and purposely close their eyes to monstrosities that would make their blood boil if the demographics of the parties were reversed.

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For most of the pro-Israeli posters on this site, this conflict is existential not ideological [View all] elias7 Dec 2023 OP

Bullshit. For example, there's nothing "existential" about indifference to killing children RockRaven Dec 2023 #1

I guess you could just as easily be talking about 10/7. CincyDem Dec 2023 #4

Hello? Yes. Hence the "for example" in the first paragraph, using the framing RockRaven Dec 2023 #5

I read the OP, and they explained the history very well. And then I read the following. GoneOffShore Dec 2023 #6

There is something very existential about Hamas pledging to end the existence of Israel. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #10

Recent survey. Igel Dec 2023 #12

Maybe I was not clear elias7 Dec 2023 #13

Very informative. Thank you. Joinfortmill Dec 2023 #2

It is true that the majority of Americans do not know Middle East history. madaboutharry Dec 2023 #3

Define existential... littlemissmartypants Dec 2023 #7

No existential threat on either side fly2man Dec 2023 #8

The bottom line is that for many or most of the pro-Israeli posters on this site, the conflict is existential not ideolo Israeli Dec 2023 #9

very balanced fly2man Dec 2023 #11

see post #13 elias7 Dec 2023 #14

definition of existential fly2man Dec 2023 #15