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Israel/Palestine

fly2man

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24. burden of proof

Reply to Beastly Boy (Reply #22)

Tue Dec 12, 2023, 02:23 PM

Dec 2023

A reporter asked a spokesman about the 2:1 ratio. His response was that the 2:1 is great, a badge of honor. There was no possibility for him to have read out statistics from other wars, on the spot. His answer was fair play.

Now, if someone criticizes the spokesman and says 2:1 is a bad ratio, he bears the burden of proof. He can't just say "but the spokesman didn't have on hand data from other wars."

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Israel military says 2 civilians killed for every Hamas militant is a 'tremendously positive' ratio given combat challen [View all] Eugene Dec 2023 OP

I just don't have any words to use... Think. Again. Dec 2023 #1

Yeah, some things you just can't spin but I think both Israel and Hamas take turns trying. Just so sad! dutch777 Dec 2023 #5

Any? fly2man Dec 2023 #17

So if Israel says that there are half a million Hamas fighters in Gaza, that gives them the right to kill Lonestarblue Dec 2023 #2

misunderstanding what he saying fly2man Dec 2023 #20

Post removed Post removed Dec 2023 #3

This is an incredibly tone deaf public statement, but it reflects the realities of war. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #4

World War II was the extreme that led to changes in the laws of war. Eugene Dec 2023 #6

I doubt very much that you will find more favorable statistics anywhere in the world Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #9

burden of proof fly2man Dec 2023 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #21

I suspect that there were no significant changes in the ratio of military vs civilian casualty ratios Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #22

burden of proof fly2man Dec 2023 #24

It was a tone deaf comment that recklessly failed to acknowledge the tragedy of civilian deaths. madaboutharry Dec 2023 #7

that means they eliminated 7500 Hamas. WhiteTara Dec 2023 #8

He forgot to mention that nearly half of the dead are children. Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #10

Children Lithos Dec 2023 #13

For god's sake, give it up. Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #14

Not disagreeing with you Lithos Dec 2023 #16

Telling the world you are proud of killing civilians Aussie105 Dec 2023 #11

As long as there is one member of Hamas, or any of their sympathizers, left alive The Mouth Dec 2023 #12

So you have no limit for civilian deaths? Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #15

the law fly2man Dec 2023 #19

I think that statistic is grossly inflated. patphil Dec 2023 #23