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Israel/Palestine

aranthus

(3,386 posts)

22. You still don't get it.

Reply to Ken Burch (Reply #21)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 10:17 AM

Feb 2018

Recognition and right to exist are not the same thing. You can recognize a government and still work to conquer the country, which is exactly what Arafat was doing. But even that is beside the point of the conversation. What I find truly troubling is your persistence in blaming Israel and letting the Arabs off the hook. To you Israel is an "oppressor" but the hateful actions of the Arabs, some of which you would surely call ethnic cleansing if done by Israel, are in your words, just a "mistake."

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Cancelled Israel Lorde gig sparks anti-boycott lawsuit [View all] muriel_volestrangler Jan 2018 OP

Incredible atreides1 Jan 2018 #1

Guess Lorde ain't gonna play Sun City... FreepFryer Jan 2018 #2

What right does any country have to pass a law against people boycotting its goods? Ken Burch Jan 2018 #3

They can pass any law they want. aranthus Feb 2018 #4

Ok, enforce. Point taken on that. But what else could Lorde and the New Zealanders do but boycott? Ken Burch Feb 2018 #5

So, by her playing Russia she must support Putin's regime of oppression and occupation. Right? grossproffit Feb 2018 #6

(revised after reflection) The double standard you're trying to set up there doesn't work. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #7

your promoting collective punishment Mosby Feb 2018 #8

There's been a cultural boycott against North Carolina over its repressive, transphobic legislature. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #9

Many things. aranthus Feb 2018 #10

You're saying they could pretend it's ALL the Palestinians fault, Ken Burch Feb 2018 #11

Not all, but most. aranthus Feb 2018 #12

But the Palestinians HAVEN'T rejected it. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #13

How else are things different on your planet? aranthus Feb 2018 #14

First of all, I don't agree with Abbas on that particular point. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #15

The problem is that you don't seem to recognize the consequence of him saying it. aranthus Feb 2018 #16

OK, 1947 instead of 1948. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #17

It isn't merely the year. aranthus Feb 2018 #18

If you want the other "guy" to let go of "his" anger towards you... Ken Burch Feb 2018 #19

It's not Arab anger that drives the conflict. aranthus Feb 2018 #20

The point is, those were offers to end up recognizing Israel. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #21

You still don't get it. aranthus Feb 2018 #22

If I could play devil's advocate...you could recognize a country's "right to exist" Ken Burch Feb 2018 #23