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Israel/Palestine

aranthus

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14. How else are things different on your planet?

Reply to Ken Burch (Reply #13)

Tue Feb 6, 2018, 12:30 AM

Feb 2018

Your post is so divorced from reality that I don't know where to begin. Perhaps you missed this from the leader of the PA.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/rewriting-history-abbas-calls-israel-a-colonial-project-unrelated-to-judaism/

Perhaps you are ignorant of the lengthy history of Palestinian rejectionism. However, saying that the Palestinians "made mistakes" is just too much. Would you call the Israeli expulsion of Palestinians in 1948 a mistake? Of course you wouldn't. You'd call it a war crime. Do you really think that starting a war is a "mistake?" The Palestinian cause for the destruction of Israel is no mistake. It is hatefulness. You ask that I treat the Palestinians as human beings. The thing is that you are not human because you have rights. You are a full member of the human community because you can bear obligations. And if you can't hold the Palestinians to the same obligations of decent conduct that every other person is held to, then it is you who does not treat them as human beings.

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Cancelled Israel Lorde gig sparks anti-boycott lawsuit [View all] muriel_volestrangler Jan 2018 OP

Incredible atreides1 Jan 2018 #1

Guess Lorde ain't gonna play Sun City... FreepFryer Jan 2018 #2

What right does any country have to pass a law against people boycotting its goods? Ken Burch Jan 2018 #3

They can pass any law they want. aranthus Feb 2018 #4

Ok, enforce. Point taken on that. But what else could Lorde and the New Zealanders do but boycott? Ken Burch Feb 2018 #5

So, by her playing Russia she must support Putin's regime of oppression and occupation. Right? grossproffit Feb 2018 #6

(revised after reflection) The double standard you're trying to set up there doesn't work. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #7

your promoting collective punishment Mosby Feb 2018 #8

There's been a cultural boycott against North Carolina over its repressive, transphobic legislature. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #9

Many things. aranthus Feb 2018 #10

You're saying they could pretend it's ALL the Palestinians fault, Ken Burch Feb 2018 #11

Not all, but most. aranthus Feb 2018 #12

But the Palestinians HAVEN'T rejected it. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #13

How else are things different on your planet? aranthus Feb 2018 #14

First of all, I don't agree with Abbas on that particular point. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #15

The problem is that you don't seem to recognize the consequence of him saying it. aranthus Feb 2018 #16

OK, 1947 instead of 1948. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #17

It isn't merely the year. aranthus Feb 2018 #18

If you want the other "guy" to let go of "his" anger towards you... Ken Burch Feb 2018 #19

It's not Arab anger that drives the conflict. aranthus Feb 2018 #20

The point is, those were offers to end up recognizing Israel. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #21

You still don't get it. aranthus Feb 2018 #22

If I could play devil's advocate...you could recognize a country's "right to exist" Ken Burch Feb 2018 #23