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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
7. (revised after reflection) The double standard you're trying to set up there doesn't work.
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 07:35 PM
Feb 2018

Last edited Fri Feb 2, 2018, 10:47 AM - Edit history (4)

It might be theoretically possible to play a concert in Moscow from a progressive anti-Putin standpoint. I don't know for sure. It is totally impossible to come in from outside and play a concert in Israel and still represent any progressive or humane viewpoint.

And Lorde hasn't PLAYED Moscow, yet. It's entirely possible she could be persuaded not to play there by human rights activists(I'd encourage them to try, for the record). It's not as though she has made a conscious decision that playing Israel is bad, but playing Moscow was no big deal. She originally agreed to play BOTH places, and it's plausible she could end up playing neither.

I'll give you an example closer to home:

it's not possible to play a concert in North Carolina without giving aid and comfort to the Republican legislature and its white supremacist, anti-LGBTQ, anti-woman agenda. It's not possible for a concert in that state to help the progressive opposition.

And are you really going to argue that people should be forced to play concerts in countries whose regimes they disapprove of?

I would say that if any performer cancels a concert on such grounds(as would be the case on any other grounds), the concert promoters and those who purchased tickets should be reimbursed.



Incredible atreides1 Jan 2018 #1
Guess Lorde ain't gonna play Sun City... FreepFryer Jan 2018 #2
What right does any country have to pass a law against people boycotting its goods? Ken Burch Jan 2018 #3
They can pass any law they want. aranthus Feb 2018 #4
Ok, enforce. Point taken on that. But what else could Lorde and the New Zealanders do but boycott? Ken Burch Feb 2018 #5
So, by her playing Russia she must support Putin's regime of oppression and occupation. Right? grossproffit Feb 2018 #6
(revised after reflection) The double standard you're trying to set up there doesn't work. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #7
your promoting collective punishment Mosby Feb 2018 #8
There's been a cultural boycott against North Carolina over its repressive, transphobic legislature. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #9
Many things. aranthus Feb 2018 #10
You're saying they could pretend it's ALL the Palestinians fault, Ken Burch Feb 2018 #11
Not all, but most. aranthus Feb 2018 #12
But the Palestinians HAVEN'T rejected it. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #13
How else are things different on your planet? aranthus Feb 2018 #14
First of all, I don't agree with Abbas on that particular point. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #15
The problem is that you don't seem to recognize the consequence of him saying it. aranthus Feb 2018 #16
OK, 1947 instead of 1948. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #17
It isn't merely the year. aranthus Feb 2018 #18
If you want the other "guy" to let go of "his" anger towards you... Ken Burch Feb 2018 #19
It's not Arab anger that drives the conflict. aranthus Feb 2018 #20
The point is, those were offers to end up recognizing Israel. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #21
You still don't get it. aranthus Feb 2018 #22
If I could play devil's advocate...you could recognize a country's "right to exist" Ken Burch Feb 2018 #23
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