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20. Israel does not view them as supporters.

Thu Dec 29, 2016, 06:28 PM

Dec 2016

The Israelis' idea of a supporter is Donald J. Trump.

There is no room for a liberal Zionism just like there was no room for a liberal Afrikaaner nationalism.

If one is not with the Israeli government as they demand, then they consider you against them.

The old days of Ben-Gurion are gone. What exists today is a nation where Avigdor Lieberman is considered a moderate.

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Trump Could Be Israels Worst Nightmare [View all] applegrove Dec 2016 OP

Netanyahu replied to Kerry's speech in English and it was not on Israeli TV in any language. applegrove Dec 2016 #1

Support for Israel is a rightwing position. geek tragedy Dec 2016 #2

No, it's not oberliner Dec 2016 #3

Obama and Kerry are no longer considered supporters of Israel geek tragedy Dec 2016 #4

J Street applauds Kerry speech, urges congressional backing oberliner Dec 2016 #13

J street is irrelevant. geek tragedy Dec 2016 #18

They are left-wing supporters of Israel oberliner Dec 2016 #19

Israel does not view them as supporters. geek tragedy Dec 2016 #20

Yes, they do oberliner Dec 2016 #21

57% of Knesset seats are controlled by far-right parties. geek tragedy Dec 2016 #22

57% of the members of the House of Representatives in the US are Republicans oberliner Dec 2016 #23

Touche'. In fact the situation here parallels exactly what is happening in Israel still_one Jan 2017 #52

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #24

No. aranthus Jan 2017 #44

Not all criticism is hostility. geek tragedy Jan 2017 #47

True, but I'm talking about aranthus Jan 2017 #49

The Paleo right used to hold that view until Muslims geek tragedy Jan 2017 #50

It will be interesting, to say the least. DanTex Dec 2016 #5

We're going to have at least 4 years of anyone who dissents from the Bibi-Trump pro-apartheid party geek tragedy Dec 2016 #6

That's not really new. Already criticism of Israel is reflexively labeled anti-Semitic. DanTex Dec 2016 #7

In the past Barack Obama and Joe Biden and John Kerry and Jerry Nadler and geek tragedy Dec 2016 #8

I agree with you fully. DanTex Dec 2016 #9

No, it's not oberliner Dec 2016 #10

No, I didn't do that at all. DanTex Dec 2016 #11

Fair enough oberliner Dec 2016 #12

Thanks. Question for you. DanTex Dec 2016 #14

I think it is in a lot of trouble, but I would not say it is dead oberliner Dec 2016 #15

Thanks for the answer. I am more pessimistic. DanTex Dec 2016 #16

Understandable oberliner Dec 2016 #17

My take is that Israelis have given up on it. aranthus Jan 2017 #45

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #25

I've been wondering just how long this love affair between the Con anbd Bebe will last. The Con napi21 Dec 2016 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Dec 2016 #27

You're wrong oberliner Dec 2016 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Dec 2016 #30

He is a Democrat who expresses strong support for Israel oberliner Dec 2016 #33

Making the Progressive Case for Israel shira Dec 2016 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Dec 2016 #34

If you think support for Israel is "right-wing," branford Jan 2017 #35

Excellent post. Thank you, Branford. grossproffit Jan 2017 #36

LT is likely confusing softening support for Israel among the *far left* of the Democratic Party, branford Jan 2017 #37

I couldn't agree with you more. I greatly appreciate your putting into words what I've been feeling grossproffit Jan 2017 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Jan 2017 #42

We know where your views are "aligned." branford Jan 2017 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Jan 2017 #65

Lots of Democrats are liberals on everything but Israel. geek tragedy Jan 2017 #48

Support for Israel is a reflex action for most supporters HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #53

Who appointed you official judge of who is liberal? branford Jan 2017 #63

There is no political upside amongst white voters geek tragedy Jan 2017 #64

Yahoo is a putz! dubyadiprecession Dec 2016 #28

As a Jew, I am afraid that Bibi and Trump will eventually hurt Israel Gothmog Dec 2016 #32

If our party was concerned about Bibi and Trump becoming too aligned, branford Jan 2017 #38

Bibi and Netanyahu are the same person oberliner Jan 2017 #40

Congratulations, you discovered a typo. branford Jan 2017 #41

Thanks for the correction oberliner Jan 2017 #43

First of all Benjamin Netanyahu is Polish not Israeli underthematrix Jan 2017 #51

How was he instrumental in our election? grossproffit Jan 2017 #54

Trump had eight "campaign" offices in underthematrix Jan 2017 #56

So, you have nothing other than your own conspiracy theory. grossproffit Jan 2017 #60

I don't deal in con spiracy theories but whatever works for you underthematrix Jan 2017 #61

Netanyahu was born in Tel Aviv in 1949 Mosby Jan 2017 #57

Yes. The two Polish people who produced him underthematrix Jan 2017 #58

your statements are bigoted Mosby Jan 2017 #59

There's nothing bigoted about saying he's European. underthematrix Jan 2017 #67

His ancestry is the People of Israel, just like his parents Mosby Jan 2017 #70

I see what you're saying underthematrix Jan 2017 #71

Wow. This is racist as hell. grossproffit Jan 2017 #66

Now this is truly bizarre. Bernie is of Polish ancestry. Biden is of Irish underthematrix Jan 2017 #69

Netanyahu is Israeli, as much as most progressive Israelis wish otherwise geek tragedy Jan 2017 #68

I doubt it alienates a key Democratic constituency karynnj Jan 2017 #46

This 2009 article is still timely HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #55