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In reply to the discussion: Mr. President: The Israeli settlements are legal [View all]Little Tich
(6,171 posts)6. The author of the OP hasn't read the relevant part of the Geneva convention about an occupier
Last edited Fri Sep 23, 2016, 07:44 AM - Edit history (1)
transferring its own civilian population into occupied territory:
"The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies."
(https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/ihl/WebART/380-600056)
There's nothing that says that there must be a forcible transfer for the provision to be applicable.
For more info on this subject, there's always the Wikipedia:
International law and Israeli settlements
Source: Wikipedia
The international community considers the establishment of Israeli settlements in the Israeli-occupied territories illegal under international law. Israel maintains that they are consistent with international law because it does not agree that the Fourth Geneva Convention applies to the territories occupied in the 1967 Six-Day War. The United Nations Security Council, the United Nations General Assembly, the International Committee of the Red Cross, the International Court of Justice and the High Contracting Parties to the Convention have all affirmed that the Fourth Geneva Convention does apply.
Numerous UN resolutions have stated that the building and existence of Israeli settlements in the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights are a violation of international law, including UN Security Council resolutions in 1979 and 1980. UN Security Council Resolution 446 refers to the Fourth Geneva Convention as the applicable international legal instrument, and calls upon Israel to desist from transferring its own population into the territories or changing their demographic makeup. The reconvened Conference of the High Contracting Parties to the Geneva Conventions has declared the settlements illegal as has the primary judicial organ of the UN, the International Court of Justice and the International Committee of the Red Cross.
The position of successive Israeli governments is that all authorized settlements are entirely legal and consistent with international law, despite Israel's armistice agreements all being with High Contracting Parties. In practice, Israel does not accept that the Fourth Geneva Convention applies de jure, but has stated that on humanitarian issues it will govern itself de facto by its provisions, without specifying which these are. The majority of legal scholars hold the settlements to violate international law, while others have offered dissenting views supporting the Israeli position.
Numerous UN resolutions have stated that the building and existence of Israeli settlements in the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights are a violation of international law, including UN Security Council resolutions in 1979 and 1980. UN Security Council Resolution 446 refers to the Fourth Geneva Convention as the applicable international legal instrument, and calls upon Israel to desist from transferring its own population into the territories or changing their demographic makeup. The reconvened Conference of the High Contracting Parties to the Geneva Conventions has declared the settlements illegal as has the primary judicial organ of the UN, the International Court of Justice and the International Committee of the Red Cross.
The position of successive Israeli governments is that all authorized settlements are entirely legal and consistent with international law, despite Israel's armistice agreements all being with High Contracting Parties. In practice, Israel does not accept that the Fourth Geneva Convention applies de jure, but has stated that on humanitarian issues it will govern itself de facto by its provisions, without specifying which these are. The majority of legal scholars hold the settlements to violate international law, while others have offered dissenting views supporting the Israeli position.
Read more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_law_and_Israeli_settlements
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+1 And, cue a variation of the popular song: "Send in the haters, they're here." nt
jonno99
Sep 2016
#1
Well articulated & correct. Of course, enemies of the Jews would argue otherwise....
shira
Sep 2016
#2
The author of the OP hasn't read the relevant part of the Geneva convention about an occupier
Little Tich
Sep 2016
#6
Nah - they're all occupations, all population transfers, "settlers". Enough denial.
shira
Sep 2016
#9
Too much of a leap of faith, I'm afraid - I still think that you should be able to actually prove
Little Tich
Sep 2016
#12
Every citizen of Israel has the same rights regardless of race, religion, or ethnicity
oberliner
Sep 2016
#19