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Little Tich

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6. The author of the OP hasn't read the relevant part of the Geneva convention about an occupier
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 08:37 PM
Sep 2016

Last edited Fri Sep 23, 2016, 07:44 AM - Edit history (1)

transferring its own civilian population into occupied territory:

"The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies."
(https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/ihl/WebART/380-600056)

There's nothing that says that there must be a forcible transfer for the provision to be applicable.

For more info on this subject, there's always the Wikipedia:

International law and Israeli settlements
Source: Wikipedia
The international community considers the establishment of Israeli settlements in the Israeli-occupied territories illegal under international law. Israel maintains that they are consistent with international law because it does not agree that the Fourth Geneva Convention applies to the territories occupied in the 1967 Six-Day War. The United Nations Security Council, the United Nations General Assembly, the International Committee of the Red Cross, the International Court of Justice and the High Contracting Parties to the Convention have all affirmed that the Fourth Geneva Convention does apply.

Numerous UN resolutions have stated that the building and existence of Israeli settlements in the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights are a violation of international law, including UN Security Council resolutions in 1979 and 1980. UN Security Council Resolution 446 refers to the Fourth Geneva Convention as the applicable international legal instrument, and calls upon Israel to desist from transferring its own population into the territories or changing their demographic makeup. The reconvened Conference of the High Contracting Parties to the Geneva Conventions has declared the settlements illegal as has the primary judicial organ of the UN, the International Court of Justice and the International Committee of the Red Cross.

The position of successive Israeli governments is that all authorized settlements are entirely legal and consistent with international law, despite Israel's armistice agreements all being with High Contracting Parties. In practice, Israel does not accept that the Fourth Geneva Convention applies de jure, but has stated that on humanitarian issues it will govern itself de facto by its provisions, without specifying which these are. The majority of legal scholars hold the settlements to violate international law, while others have offered dissenting views supporting the Israeli position.

Read more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_law_and_Israeli_settlements
+1 And, cue a variation of the popular song: "Send in the haters, they're here." nt jonno99 Sep 2016 #1
Well articulated & correct. Of course, enemies of the Jews would argue otherwise.... shira Sep 2016 #2
So what? aranthus Sep 2016 #3
The problem with your argument Mosby Sep 2016 #4
History should inform the present, not control it. aranthus Sep 2016 #5
The author of the OP hasn't read the relevant part of the Geneva convention about an occupier Little Tich Sep 2016 #6
Since Geneva IV doesn't apply to other occupations/settlements globally... shira Sep 2016 #7
Wow, that's a pretty big bag of pick'n mix of different situations... Little Tich Sep 2016 #8
Nah - they're all occupations, all population transfers, "settlers". Enough denial. shira Sep 2016 #9
Too much of a leap of faith, I'm afraid - I still think that you should be able to actually prove Little Tich Sep 2016 #12
It's more proof than any of the idiotic anti-Israel narratives... shira Sep 2016 #14
Enjoy your apartheid state while you have it. geek tragedy Sep 2016 #10
Every citizen of Israel has the same rights regardless of race, religion, or ethnicity oberliner Sep 2016 #19
Liberal democracies don't practice apartheid geek tragedy Sep 2016 #20
Right, and neither does Israel - even in the W.Bank. Give it up. n/t shira Sep 2016 #21
Yes it does shira .... Israeli Sep 2016 #23
"Jewish Only Roads" is a lie, so why keep posting this shit? n/t shira Sep 2016 #25
2008 shira ..... Israeli Sep 2016 #24
Hmmm....a road Israelis use that Palestinians cannot is not Apartheid. shira Sep 2016 #26
Agreed oberliner Sep 2016 #28
To me Israel has a few choices sabbat hunter Sep 2016 #11
The problem is Israel negotiating with a Palestinian leadership... shira Sep 2016 #15
What is your solution sabbat hunter Sep 2016 #27
There's always something that can be done; not that it will result in peace. shira Sep 2016 #29
If they don't negotiate with sabbat hunter Sep 2016 #30
Right, it's basically hopeless. n/t shira Sep 2016 #32
Oded Ravivi ???? !!!!!........ Israeli Sep 2016 #13
The author could be Uri Avnery. Facts are facts. n/t shira Sep 2016 #16
Come on ....now you are being extremely silly shira ..... Israeli Sep 2016 #17
I don't think you got the point. I know Avnery didn't write that.... shira Sep 2016 #18
LOL ..... Israeli Sep 2016 #22
Why should any part sabbat hunter Sep 2016 #31
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