Israel/Palestine

FBaggins

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20. And the Palestinians are Arabs in both senses... so that's still dodging.

Mon Sep 12, 2016, 10:03 PM

Sep 2016

But please tell what you think about the part of the OP that I posted in #12 - is it a lie?

Nope. It's certainly less of a "blatant lie" then the claim that the Jews are the invaders/colonizers and not indigenous to the area. There are certainly large numbers of Palestinians (about half IIRC) whose ancestors trace back to Arabs who were brought there by the British a century ago. They certainly aren't as "indigenous" as the Jews are. Many more are from Arabs who took the land from the Romans in the 7th century.

But that wasn't the point of my question. You can't call something "racist" when it isn't the race that distinguishes the way that they are viewed. IOW - there are people of the same race who have been at peace with Israel for decades now.

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BDS is a Settler Colonial Ideology [View all] shira Sep 2016 OP

Racist crap. Little Tich Sep 2016 #1

LoL. This is a great article to use against the Zionism = Colonialism racist crap. shira Sep 2016 #2

The author of this stinker is promoting the myth that Palestinians are descended from Arab invaders Little Tich Sep 2016 #3

The Palestinians describe themselves as Arabs. Here's Hamas for example... shira Sep 2016 #4

I hope you know what you're doing. n/t Little Tich Sep 2016 #5

Are you saying that you don't think that Palestinians are arabs? FBaggins Sep 2016 #7

1964 PLO Charter, Article 1.... shira Sep 2016 #8

Have you even read the OP? Little Tich Sep 2016 #12

How is that anymore racist than claiming the same against Jews? shira Sep 2016 #13

Would it be correct to assume that you think the quote in my post #12 to be factually incorrect? n/t Little Tich Sep 2016 #31

The OP is factually accurate. Now will you answer me? n/t shira Sep 2016 #34

The Khazar myth is no better than the lies propagated in the OP. Little Tich Sep 2016 #35

Please stop obfuscating. I'm talking about claims that Jews aren't indigenous.... shira Sep 2016 #36

What's more important is Arab as a cultural distinction. aranthus Sep 2016 #9

Are you suggesting that Palestinians don't have a right to live in their ancestral homeland? Little Tich Sep 2016 #10

Apparently you didn't read the post you responded to. aranthus Sep 2016 #21

I'm sorry - I didn't realize that you haven't read the OP. n/t Little Tich Sep 2016 #23

I get it. aranthus Sep 2016 #27

Please just look at the evidence in my post #30 and form your own opinion. n/t Little Tich Sep 2016 #33

A little late, but this is a great post. Bookmarking. n/t shira Dec 2016 #37

Palestinians are descended from the people that have lived in Palestine since prehistory, Little Tich Sep 2016 #11

Can you define indigenous status for the classroom? n/t shira Sep 2016 #14

The term "indigenous" is a vague concept that seems to have lost its original meaning. Little Tich Sep 2016 #15

Kinda worthless discussion if we can't agree on simple definitions. n/t shira Sep 2016 #17

It seems as if you're trying to avoid saying that you think that Palestinians are not indigenous Little Tich Sep 2016 #18

You keep bringing up Palestinians being descended from Canaanites, etc... shira Sep 2016 #28

You still having trouble answering simple questions? FBaggins Sep 2016 #16

Arab is a both cultural identity and an ancestral heritage. Little Tich Sep 2016 #19

And the Palestinians are Arabs in both senses... so that's still dodging. FBaggins Sep 2016 #20

As I've stated before - I've never encountered this myth outside of racist argumentation. n/t Little Tich Sep 2016 #24

And as has been pointed out to you in the past... FBaggins Sep 2016 #29

Perhaps we could dispense with the customary insults and provide evidence for our claims instead? Little Tich Sep 2016 #30

Where is the proof of this? aranthus Sep 2016 #22

Racial purity isn't my favourite subject, but as it seems important for you, I guess you need to Little Tich Sep 2016 #25

You have completely missed my point. aranthus Sep 2016 #26

I'm very concerned about the spreading of racist lies. Little Tich Sep 2016 #32

On the Israeli side of the Green Line, it isn't colonialism. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #38

Criticizing settlements is fine but calling it colonialism as if Jews don't belong.... shira Dec 2016 #39

It has nothing to do with anyone being Jewish. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #40

I don't have a problem with legit criticism of settlements, but colonialism goes too far. shira Dec 2016 #41

I'm not sure they're against the existence of Israel within the pre-1967 lines. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #42

Seriously? You don't believe BDS is against the existence of Israel? Come on Ken... shira Dec 2016 #43

BDS is not Hamas and Fatah. It's totally separate from them. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #44

BDS has no problem with racist Hamas, Fatah goals. shira Dec 2016 #45

A very cogent and thoughtful article AsianActivist Sep 2016 #6