Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
Israel/Palestine
In reply to the discussion: Founder of Breaking the Silence: Israeli settlers poisoning Palestinian water [View all]Violet_Crumble
(36,139 posts)23. It's unbelievable that anyone would try to defend the extremist settlers...
The settlers themselves are open about what they see as their duty to stop Palestinians from harvesting olives. Here's two videos....
&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DqYtvb8OW_cg&has_verified=1
And an article from a few years ago where settlers admit to the destruction. I wonder if Shira thinks they're liars or something. Like you pointed out, the extremists have no qualms in carrying out even worse violence than damaging and destroying trees, so I'm not sure why anyone would try to portray them as innocent victims of a smear campaign.
The people of Sawiya estimate that 250 trees, the income for 10 extended families, were damaged or destroyed. But as it is too dangerous to approach the settlement, they cannot count precisely.
Settlers at Eli declined to be interviewed, but other settlers in the area have justified driving Palestinians from their land by saying they threaten security. Eli and nearby Yitzhar have been attacked over the past three years, and families have been murdered in other nearby settlements.
But as Yitzhar's spokesman, Yossi Peli, readily admits, the settlers' intent goes beyond security. "The trees grow back and ultimately we hope to harvest them in the place of the unwanted inhabitants of the area," he said.
Men from Yitzhar, a settlement with a history of violence against Palestinians, have terrorised olive pickers with guns and clubs and destroyed hundreds of trees. In one incident, they beat a 70-year-old man, stripped him and forced him to walk back to his village naked.
The destruction of trees has drawn fire from Mr Sharon and the Yesha council, which represents settlers. But the latter qualified its criticism by saying that, while wrecking trees is wrong, it is acceptable for settlers to loot the olive crop - because Jews are entitled to harvest the produce of non-Jews in what the council defines as the "Land of Israel".
One Israeli Labor MP, Ephraim Sneh, visited the scene and blamed the Government for the incidents. "Who did this? The residents of Hilltop 725," he said. "That is a settlement outpost the Government of Israel undertook to remove, but didn't; now the army is forced to guard it. We're talking about a group who live at the state's expense, with the state's protection, and do things no Jew can accept."
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/11/14/1068674380631.html
Settlers at Eli declined to be interviewed, but other settlers in the area have justified driving Palestinians from their land by saying they threaten security. Eli and nearby Yitzhar have been attacked over the past three years, and families have been murdered in other nearby settlements.
But as Yitzhar's spokesman, Yossi Peli, readily admits, the settlers' intent goes beyond security. "The trees grow back and ultimately we hope to harvest them in the place of the unwanted inhabitants of the area," he said.
Men from Yitzhar, a settlement with a history of violence against Palestinians, have terrorised olive pickers with guns and clubs and destroyed hundreds of trees. In one incident, they beat a 70-year-old man, stripped him and forced him to walk back to his village naked.
The destruction of trees has drawn fire from Mr Sharon and the Yesha council, which represents settlers. But the latter qualified its criticism by saying that, while wrecking trees is wrong, it is acceptable for settlers to loot the olive crop - because Jews are entitled to harvest the produce of non-Jews in what the council defines as the "Land of Israel".
One Israeli Labor MP, Ephraim Sneh, visited the scene and blamed the Government for the incidents. "Who did this? The residents of Hilltop 725," he said. "That is a settlement outpost the Government of Israel undertook to remove, but didn't; now the army is forced to guard it. We're talking about a group who live at the state's expense, with the state's protection, and do things no Jew can accept."
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/11/14/1068674380631.html
Apparently even Sharon and the Yesha council were wrong according to Shira...
Anyway, this 'show a pic of it happening or it didn't happen!' tactic runs both ways. From now on, if that poster doesn't provide video evidence of any claim they make, we can all discard it just like they have with the fact that everyone knows, which is that extremist settlers do target olive harvests...
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
30 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
Founder of Breaking the Silence: Israeli settlers poisoning Palestinian water [View all]
shira
Jun 2016
OP
Antisemites always believe everything Jews are accused of, without thinking twice. n/t
shira
Jun 2016
#2
Do you believe the "Israel's policies will eventually lead to peace"-stuff, too?
DetlefK
Jun 2016
#17
I'm sorry. I thought, the topic was conspiracy-theories about Israel in general. (Because "penis".)
DetlefK
Jun 2016
#21
Your last article was penned by Joe Catron, who called for Hezbollah to bomb Tel Aviv....
shira
Jun 2016
#8
It's unbelievable that anyone would try to defend the extremist settlers...
Violet_Crumble
Jun 2016
#23
From what I understand, it's an unsubstantiated claim made by one person - not BTS officially.
Little Tich
Jun 2016
#14
So you don't have a problem with Yehuda Shaul's medieval jew hating libel, right?
shira
Jun 2016
#22
Whether some accusations are "centuries old antisemitic Jew hating libels" depends on the context.
Little Tich
Jun 2016
#29
BTS didn't make the allegation at all. Shira posted an OP the other day that said so...
Violet_Crumble
Jun 2016
#24