Israel/Palestine

azurnoir

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24. and some assume quite a bit don't they? However Tutu is South African and did actually live

Thu May 12, 2016, 04:56 PM

May 2016

as both a child and an adult under apartheid unlike the author who could only have been at best a very small child when apartheid ended 25 years ago

BTW if you're about even 1 of the things you called me on you're revealing personal info

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Calling Israel an apartheid state is an insult to black South Africans [View all] ericson00 May 2016 OP

Being a law student is obviously no protection against bad argumentation. Little Tich May 2016 #1

You have never been to Israel or the West Bank oberliner May 2016 #2

Maybe (s)he stayed in a Holiday Inn Express, nt COLGATE4 May 2016 #3

Where did you stay COLGATE4 ???? Israeli May 2016 #41

Your reply doesn't even make sense. COLGATE4 May 2016 #45

About as much sense as yours ... Israeli May 2016 #47

It's a joke from American TV. Makes fun of people thinking that COLGATE4 May 2016 #58

I think only half the posters in this group have ever been there... King_David May 2016 #4

I think its a hell of a lot less ... Israeli May 2016 #42

48.6% ? King_David May 2016 #43

In this group KD ????? Israeli May 2016 #48

Oh, I've been to Israel a few times. Little Tich May 2016 #34

Now you're bringing up discrimination. BDS uses that fake list of 50 discriminatory laws.... shira May 2016 #37

Think before you post. Little Tich May 2016 #38

Sorry, but that fake list is used by BDS to prove apartheid WITHIN Israel.... shira May 2016 #39

I only support the kind of BDS that Hillary Clinton is against - BDS against the occupation and Little Tich May 2016 #44

There is no such BDS movement. Who are the leaders of this movement who are not.... shira May 2016 #46

BDS is a political tool, not an organization. Little Tich May 2016 #62

The Methodist church supports the 2005 BDS "global" movement.... shira May 2016 #63

My brain hurts. Little Tich May 2016 #64

Hillary is opposed to BDS period. There's only 1 BDS, the bad Jew hating kind. shira May 2016 #65

In spite of your assertions, the Earth still rotates around the Sun. Little Tich May 2016 #66

WTF? The Methodist Church quoted from global BDS, ElectronicIntifada.... shira May 2016 #68

Do you have a definition of Apartheid yet? What's taking so long? Maybe.... shira May 2016 #78

How about you oberliner ? Israeli May 2016 #40

We have no idea where Oberliner lives King_David May 2016 #61

My screen name Tony_FLADEM might provide a clue as to where I live. Tony_FLADEM May 2016 #75

A place full of Zionist Jewish democrats King_David May 2016 #76

Your BDS friends lie when they say there's Apartheid WITHIN Israel. shira May 2016 #5

I didn't know I had any BDS friends. Little Tich May 2016 #35

The greater BDS movement claims apartheid within Israel. shira May 2016 #36

agreed yourpaljoey May 2016 #54

And bds continues leftynyc May 2016 #6

It is a success to the extent it foments & incites hatred. Which is the point... shira May 2016 #7

It's a colossal failure leftynyc May 2016 #9

The boycotting, divesting, sanctions have been a failure.... shira May 2016 #10

Could be leftynyc May 2016 #11

I think BDS'ers will love Donnie Trump. They hate Jews... shira May 2016 #12

Nah leftynyc May 2016 #14

What a disgusting bullshit claim. Shame on you. cali May 2016 #21

I've debated BDS'ers for years & I have yet to find one... shira May 2016 #30

You got it exactly 6chars May 2016 #15

They want Israel gone. What will that accomplish? shira May 2016 #17

If it's a colossal failure as you say it is Tony_FLADEM May 2016 #60

Has their ever been a precedent in history of boycotting Jews or Jewish businesses in the world? King_David May 2016 #67

They are boycotting a country because they deem some of it's policies in violation of Tony_FLADEM May 2016 #69

So the homophobic gay hating filth government in the Palestinian statelet is supported King_David May 2016 #70

There is no Palestinian State and increasted settlements by another country in an georgraphic Tony_FLADEM May 2016 #72

If there is a lethal hate on Gays as there is in Palestine and Uganda and Islamic state and Iran King_David May 2016 #74

not according to Desmond Tutu moreover the author Leon Jamaine Mithi is currently a law student azurnoir May 2016 #8

Tutu has that old Church hatred of the chosen people. Got a better example? shira May 2016 #13

so according to you Desmond Tutu is an anti semite? a hater of Jews? azurnoir May 2016 #16

His work with Sabeel is all the proof I need. They're old-school Jew haters. n/t shira May 2016 #18

Desmond Tutu an antisemite? but a guy who was around 3-5 yrs when Apartheid ended is azurnoir May 2016 #19

His own quotes speak for themselves... shira May 2016 #25

LOL, of course there are those that sit in Minnesota King_David May 2016 #23

and some assume quite a bit don't they? However Tutu is South African and did actually live azurnoir May 2016 #24

His background doesn't mean anything based on his POV on Jews. n/t shira May 2016 #26

He has commanded Jews on their role in ending apartheid in SA azurnoir May 2016 #28

I hope you can at least agree that antisemites' views on the Jewish state are irrelevant... shira May 2016 #29

You were critical of the author King_David May 2016 #31

I pointed out Desmond Tutu who lived under apartheid far longer than the author possibly could have azurnoir May 2016 #32

Quite a few S.Africans including Richard Goldstone call BS on Israeli apartheid claims. shira May 2016 #33

Goldstone was involved in the death sentences of Black's in apartheid SA azurnoir May 2016 #49

Good point. So let's dismiss both Tutu and Goldstone due to their prejudices. n/t shira May 2016 #50

Tutu did sentence anyone to anything nor can I find Goldstone saying anything about the term azurnoir May 2016 #51

No, he's just a bigot so he's fine. n/t shira May 2016 #52

that Tutu is a bigot is your opinion -not a fact azurnoir May 2016 #53

If Tutu's statements are old antisemitic tropes that the vast majority.... shira May 2016 #56

I would say "if" is operative word here azurnoir May 2016 #57

Tutu has made some awkward and some questionable comments but cali May 2016 #20

Yea , I don't think he actually hates Jews King_David May 2016 #22

See #25. And I didn't know he praised Jews in their role for dismantling Apartheid. shira May 2016 #27

And yet, so many black South Africans seem to disagree Scootaloo May 2016 #55

There's nothing wrong about Christian viewpoints on Israel. shira May 2016 #59

why is OK when Islam people invoke the holiness of ericson00 May 2016 #71

Calling Israel an apartheid state is just plain stupid Albertoo May 2016 #73

It is. And notice that those attacking Israel, say nothing about Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iran patsimp May 2016 #77