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Israel/Palestine

oberliner

(58,724 posts)

8. That's definitely not true

Reply to Ken Burch (Reply #5)

Sun May 8, 2016, 07:56 PM

May 2016

The question of Zionism cannot be decoupled from the issue of antisemitism.

Think of classic antisemitic quotes from the past like Lindbergh's "leaders of the Jewish race are not American in interests and viewpoints" - now just replace "Zionists" for "leaders of the Jewish race".

Most reasonable people can recognize the difference between criticism of Israel and criticism of Israel that crosses over into antisemitism.

People should not be able to use "I'm just talking about Zionists, not Jews" as a shield.

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My plea to the left: treat Jews the same way you’d treat any other minority [View all] Mosby May 2016 OP

Great piece leftynyc May 2016 #1

A reasonable request. n/t Little Tich May 2016 #2

Back to the good old days of Jews pleading 6chars May 2016 #3

Yep King_David May 2016 #4

The left(many of whose members)do treat Jewish people like any other minority. Ken Burch May 2016 #5

Ken, the reactionary anti-Imperialist Left hates Jews...believes Hamas is progressive. shira May 2016 #7

Not so. There are SOME who do; but anti-imperialist far-leftist do not automatically hate Jews. LeftishBrit May 2016 #16

What percentage do you think are Corbynites, Galloways, Livingstones....? shira May 2016 #17

That's definitely not true oberliner May 2016 #8

What about "I'm talking about Zionism", as opposed to "Zionists"? Ken Burch May 2016 #9

Here's my take oberliner May 2016 #10

Agreed that there are some people like those you describe in the second paragraph. Ken Burch May 2016 #13

Fair points oberliner May 2016 #15

I suppose it is derived from Geneva. Ken Burch May 2016 #18

AntiZionists dream is the good old days where there was no protection of Jews King_David May 2016 #11

Well, I'm not an antizionist and that isn't MY dream. Ken Burch May 2016 #12

Interesting correction at the bottom of the article: Ken Burch May 2016 #6

Check out the end of this OP.... shira May 2016 #14

But Jews aren't like other minorities, so there are three reasons why it won't ever happen. aranthus May 2016 #19

Great post. n/t shira May 2016 #20

spectacular analysis, +1000 ericson00 May 2016 #21