Israel/Palestine

aranthus

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63. Not true.

Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:38 PM

Apr 2016

The first attacks were by Arabs almost immediately after passage of the Partition Resolution at the end of November. There were back and forth attacks all during December. It is not as if there was peace and then out of nowhere the Haifa refinery attack. Not only is there little evidence that the Irgun was trying to spark a war (they'd have been crazy to try and do that when hardly anyone thought that they would win), but there is no evidence that the Arab militants (such as the Mufti) would have let things resolve peacefully if there were no attacks by the Irgun.

Who made this video? It reeks of propaganda.

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How Nazi Propaganda and the Muslim Brotherhood Led to the 1948 Israel-Arab War [View all] aranthus Apr 2016 OP

kick MariaThinks Apr 2016 #1

Revisionist BS. Little Tich Apr 2016 #2

Except he's talking about what happened in 1947 that led to 1948. aranthus Apr 2016 #3

Please read the Wikipedia article again. Little Tich Apr 2016 #36

Perhaps you should re-read it with an eye to the thread topic. aranthus Apr 2016 #43

Perhaps I'm reading the article differently. Little Tich Apr 2016 #60

Which article? aranthus Apr 2016 #61

Funny. One of your favorite, most trusted historians is a revisionist: Ilan Pappe shira Apr 2016 #7

Pappe may be a "revisionist", but he's not a Revisionist: Ken Burch Apr 2016 #31

He's a hack & fraud with zero credibility. He has admitted he doesn't deal in facts. n/t shira Apr 2016 #32

I think your interpretation is incorrect. Little Tich Apr 2016 #37

Pappe admits he's driven by ideology rather than facts. He's a propagandist.... shira Apr 2016 #39

The Tantura massacre "myth"? Little Tich Apr 2016 #41

Pappe claims a massacre took place there. He's a liar, now isn't he? n/;t shira Apr 2016 #42

Not according to the link. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #52

The Israeli taboo... 55 years on Israeli Apr 2016 #53

Another "All Palestinians are responsible for the shit the Grand Mufti did" thread. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #4

The grand Mufti really did that shit, it's not a story, its history... King_David Apr 2016 #5

Yes he did what he did...but that simply means HE was a bastard. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #6

So this should be surpressed because you've decided the motive for posting it ? King_David Apr 2016 #9

It is historically important, but it needs to be acknoweledged Ken Burch Apr 2016 #14

So you think you should whitewash it ? King_David Apr 2016 #17

No, not whitewash it, but place the blame where it belongs: Ken Burch Apr 2016 #18

Your duty here is to protect the reputation of the Palestinian people's? King_David Apr 2016 #21

No, to stand against collective punishment of those living today Ken Burch Apr 2016 #23

The problem in the Mideast is that *everyone* has both historical, and refreshed, excuses villager Apr 2016 #27

What then, indeed? Ken Burch Apr 2016 #30

Thanks, Ken. I've given up hope, actually, that either side will stop "Otherizing" their "enemies." villager Apr 2016 #35

Israel is actually beating the water problem, defying drought conditions.... shira Apr 2016 #33

And the comments section gets right back to my post. villager Apr 2016 #34

It doesn't apply to Palestinians, apparently: Little Tich Apr 2016 #38

No doubt it is a problem, but THE problem? aranthus Apr 2016 #46

Your memory is bad, and I'm tired of re-explaining to you Scootaloo Apr 2016 #54

Obviously wasn't convincing or credible King_David Apr 2016 #56

+1. nt bemildred Apr 2016 #8

Not at all. aranthus Apr 2016 #44

The Palestinians DID accept Israel's right to exist. In 1994. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #45

If that were true, then they wouldn't keep pushing for Right of Return. aranthus Apr 2016 #47

The fear(soon realized) of mass dispossession and exile were one of the major reasons Ken Burch Apr 2016 #48

HORSE HOCKEY! aranthus Apr 2016 #50

I've said nothing personally abusive to you. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #51

Yea but your post was complete nonsense King_David Apr 2016 #59

Both sides are to blame. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #67

Yea but your post was utter nonsense King_David Apr 2016 #68

Nor have I to you. aranthus Apr 2016 #62

And it isn't even as simple as saying the Palestinians started it. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #66

Why shouldn't Palestinians who has their homes stolen... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #57

Recognition issue has not been put to rest at all King_David Apr 2016 #58

Take a minute and think leftynyc Apr 2016 #10

Think even today how advanced they would be King_David Apr 2016 #11

Instead leftynyc Apr 2016 #12

There's a vocal minority of those here on DU that blame Israel for everything. King_David Apr 2016 #13

To call them fringe leftynyc Apr 2016 #15

Yep King_David Apr 2016 #16

It has never been all the Palestinians' fault. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #19

I didn't claim otherwise leftynyc Apr 2016 #20

I don't approve of their tactics, but what they were offered in '48 was too small to be a real state Ken Burch Apr 2016 #22

The '47 partition plan was more a state than what the Palestinians are asking for today.... shira Apr 2016 #24

What utter HORSESHIT leftynyc Apr 2016 #25

Why should anyone accept being mugged? Scootaloo Apr 2016 #55

Please offer a side of BS when you serve up nonsense yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #26

What lies? aranthus Apr 2016 #28

The OP isn't nonsense or lies. In fact, it's impossible to understand I/P... shira Apr 2016 #29

Israel haters don't like being reminded that their cause is linked to Nazi Jew hatred. n/t shira Apr 2016 #40

The Israel-Arab War started when the Irgun attacked some Arabs Tony_FLADEM Apr 2016 #49

Not true. aranthus Apr 2016 #63

The Arab Palestinians did not have a military so how were they able to launch attacks? Tony_FLADEM Apr 2016 #64

Of course they had a military. aranthus Apr 2016 #65