Israel/Palestine

Little Tich

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42. I'm new to this idea that ethnic / religious groups are allowed to decide themselves what

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 12:02 PM

Mar 2016

constitutes discrimination against them.

I've always assumed that ethnic and religious groups were not allowed to decide these things, as it would potentially interfere with the rights of others. I know personally people (white Europeans) who consider themselves discriminated against in their own countries, and I know that there are Christians in the US who consider it discrimination against their religious beliefs to be forced to bake a cake for a gay couple. I would never want to give these groups of people the right to decide what's considered to be discrimination against them.

How does this right to determine what's considered discrimination work, and what groups are eligible to decide this for themselves?

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University Of California Approves Anti-Semitism Statement [View all] Purveyor Mar 2016 OP

They should of consulted Bernie Sanders King_David Mar 2016 #1

Essentially what they said is that antisemitism should not be tolerated on campus except aranthus Mar 2016 #2

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Have you read about that leftynyc Mar 2016 #6

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Well, when it starts effecting leftynyc Mar 2016 #8

This time it's different 6chars Mar 2016 #9

I don't get it leftynyc Mar 2016 #10

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So true. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #54

That sounds like a bunch of crazy shit to me. ZombieHorde Mar 2016 #52

University of California softens anti-Semitism statement Eugene Mar 2016 #3

There is no non-antisemitic form of political anti-Zionism aranthus Mar 2016 #12

I'm against the so called existence of all countries, ZombieHorde Mar 2016 #53

You can't be anti-the United States and pro-American. aranthus Apr 2016 #57

Why do you think being against countries is anti-human? ZombieHorde Apr 2016 #58

Because aranthus Apr 2016 #59

Art, language, religion, etc., are older than countries. ZombieHorde Apr 2016 #60

It seems as if you long for a humanity that does not exist. aranthus Apr 2016 #61

Anti-Zionism isn't a form of discrimination, but anti-Semitism is. Little Tich Mar 2016 #4

There is no non-antisemitic form of political anti-Zionism. aranthus Mar 2016 #13

I would actually consider the position stated in your post to be discriminatory, Little Tich Mar 2016 #15

Each people get's its own country. How is that discriminatory? aranthus Mar 2016 #18

I understand what you mean, but I disagree completely, simply because I'm very much opposed to Little Tich Mar 2016 #20

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I firmly believe that all forms of discrimination can be overcome, especially in a democratic Little Tich Mar 2016 #23

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Yes King_David Mar 2016 #34

Some responses aranthus Mar 2016 #40

Aren't the Palestininans the direct descendants of the original population in Palestine, and only Little Tich Mar 2016 #44

Some of them probably are. aranthus Mar 2016 #47

Frankly, what I get from your post is that in the homeland of the Jews, Little Tich Mar 2016 #49

The point is that both peoples have a place to express their own culture. aranthus Mar 2016 #50

Postnationalism is a thing Mosby Apr 2016 #63

So true. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #55

Oh yeah...you know better than the VAST majority of Jews what anti-semitism is. shira Mar 2016 #14

I believe that if it's not racism, it's not anti-Semitism. Little Tich Mar 2016 #16

You argued that a holocaust denying terror supporter like Atzmon.... shira Mar 2016 #17

Since Jews are not a race, your point is nonsense. aranthus Mar 2016 #19

All forms of ethnic discrimination are racism. Little Tich Mar 2016 #22

How come everyone feels it's okay to tell Jews themselves what is and isn't antisemitism King_David Mar 2016 #26

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The right for a group to decide what constitutes discrimination against that group potentially Little Tich Mar 2016 #31

AntiZionism IS Antisemitism King_David Mar 2016 #32

Would you consider post-Zionism to be anti-Semitic? Little Tich Mar 2016 #36

I'm not even sure that post Zionists think of themselves as antiZionists King_David Mar 2016 #37

It's not a"right" King_David Mar 2016 #35

Blacks & Gays apparently have no right to decide what's racist or homophobic.... shira Mar 2016 #39

I'm new to this idea that ethnic / religious groups are allowed to decide themselves what Little Tich Mar 2016 #42

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It only applies to Jews apparently King_David Mar 2016 #45

Gee, thanks for the compliment, but it still doesn't help me understand. Little Tich Mar 2016 #48

Holocaust Denial is racism & yet you defended a Holocaust Denier.... shira Mar 2016 #38

When did Atzmon deny that the Holocaust happened? Little Tich Mar 2016 #41

We had this conversation already when you defended Atzmon's H-Denial... shira Mar 2016 #46

Of course not: King_David Mar 2016 #28

Is being anti Islamism a form of discrimination? grossproffit Mar 2016 #29

Yes, Anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism grossproffit Mar 2016 #30

It most certainly is , King_David Mar 2016 #33

My Jewish roommate is an anti-Zionist. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #51

AntiZionism is denial of self determination to the Jewish people King_David Mar 2016 #56

yes Mosby Apr 2016 #62