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12. The most religious Right wing Gov in our history ....
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:26 AM
Mar 2016

....is going to give them East Jerusalem as a capital?

Anybody foolish enough to believe that needs their heads examined .

Rightist Group Boosting Efforts to Evict Arabs, Settle Jews in East Jerusalem

Ateret Cohanim now has 12 suits in the court system to evict over 300 East Jerusalem residents from their homes.

Nir Hasson Mar 11, 2016

An organization that settles Jews in Arab areas of East Jerusalem has filed six suits in recent months to evict 27 Palestinian families from their homes in the Silwan neighborhood.

These latest suits by Ateret Cohanim, filed in the last four months, bring the total number of such suits now moving through the courts to 12. Altogether, the 12 suits affect 51 families made up of more than 300 people. The names of all the people involved in the suits are under a court-approved gag order.

Security for each Jewish family now living in Silwan costs the state about 1 million shekels ($260,000) a year.

All the land at issue was purchased by a Jewish trust more than a century ago for the purpose of housing Jewish immigrants from Yemen. Ateret Cohanim obtained control over the land in 2001, when it successfully asked the Jerusalem District Court, with backing from the Justice Ministry’s administrator general, to appoint it as the trust’s trustee, on the grounds that the original trustees – appointed back in 1899 – could no longer fulfill their role.

In 2004, Ateret Cohanim began settling Jewish families in Silwan’s Beit Yonatan building. Ever since, it has worked to evict Palestinians living on the trust’s land, both by filing suits and by offering families generous compensation to leave voluntarily.

So far, the organization has settled 10 Jewish families in Beit Yonatan. Over the past year, it has emptied another 13 apartments in Silwan, but most haven’t yet gotten new tenants.

A few months ago, however, it apparently decided to begin a concerted legal effort to clear all the land it controls of its Palestinian residents. Most of the 60 families targeted have lived there for decades.

Attorney Ziad Kawar, one of a team of lawyers representing most of the Palestinian families, said he believes Ateret Cohanim is filing the suits now for fear that if it waits, the statute of limitations will expire. The organization obtained control of the land in November 2001, he noted, and the statute of limitations on unresolved land issues is 15 years, “so they have to file all the suits by November 2016.”

Kawar, however, argues that the statute of limitations should have expired long ago, because the administrator general was aware of these lands but made no effort to take control of them.

Another unresolved legal question is whether the land really remained in Jewish hands after the Yemenite Jews left the neighborhood in the late 1930s during the Arab Revolt. Moreover, some of the Palestinians claim to have bought their plots from the Jewish owners, while others claim their plots aren’t actually the ones mentioned in the original Ottoman-era deeds.

Finally, the Palestinians argue that Jews shouldn’t be allowed to regain property lost in the 1948 War of Independence as long as Palestinians aren’t allowed to do the same. During that war, Jordan conquered East Jerusalem and expelled its Jewish residents, while many Palestinians fled or were driven from the city’s western part.

“My father had a house in the [Old City’s] Jewish Quarter,” said Zuheir Rajbi, a Silwan resident. “If they want to remove me from here, then I want it back.”
“Israel, by means of discriminatory legislation, is helping to establish settlements in the heart of East Jerusalem and turning the many Palestinian refugees who live [in Silwan] into refugees once again,” added attorney Muhammad Dahleh, Kawar’s colleague.

Moving more Jews into Silwan would also have far-reaching security and budgetary implications. Jewish residents of the area have repeatedly had their houses and cars stoned or firebombed, and they can only leave home in armored cars accompanied by an armed guard.

Last year, the state spent 83 million shekels to guard Jews living in Palestinian neighborhoods of Jerusalem, while this year, the figure is expected to be 74 million shekels. A source familiar with the issue said the cost of security for Jews in the part of Silwan where Ateret Cohanim operates comes to 12 million shekels a year – about one million shekels per family. This budget, which comes from the Housing Ministry, doesn’t include the extra costs to the police.

Nor is Ateret Cohanim the only organization moving Jews into Silwan. Elad, for instance, has settled 25 families in a different part of Silwan over the past 18 months.

Attorney Avraham Moshe Segal, who represents the trust, said the courts had ruled it to be the sole owner of the land in question, and therefore, “all the squatters against whom suits have been filed ought to vacate the land voluntarily. My client, going beyond the letter of the law, is even willing to compensate the squatters who vacate the trust’s land voluntarily.”

The Ir Amim organization, which is helping the Palestinian residents, said that settler organizations, “under the auspices of a discriminatory system, are dispossessing and uprooting the Palestinian community from its houses, and dispossessing Israel of any chance of a future diplomatic solution.”

Source : http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.708243

Geez another give Israel everything it wants "peace deal" is turned down. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #1
Obviously your clueless on this topic King_David Mar 2016 #2
There are people (see responses in this thread), aranthus Mar 2016 #4
Exactly 6chars Mar 2016 #7
At least come clean with it, King_David Mar 2016 #10
The most religious Right wing Gov in our history .... Israeli Mar 2016 #12
Yeah right. Now stop pretending you're for a Palestinian state, okay? shira Mar 2016 #9
East Jerusalem as the capital of a Palestinian state is not what Israel wants oberliner Mar 2016 #17
Was Biden at least gracious enough to offer Abbas a tissue after spitting in his face? Little Tich Mar 2016 #3
If the Palestinians sabbat hunter Mar 2016 #5
When it comes to the question of a future return of the Palestinian refugees, it's possible it will Little Tich Mar 2016 #6
We get it already, okay? You're against 2 states & peace... shira Mar 2016 #8
For me, you are the one-stater in this thread, not me. Little Tich Mar 2016 #18
Not buying it. You reject every offer from 1937 to 2008. shira Mar 2016 #28
What about the Arab Peace Initiative from 2002? Little Tich Mar 2016 #30
In 2013, land swaps were voted into the Arab Peace Initiative shira Mar 2016 #31
Israel rejected that out of hand azurnoir Mar 2016 #32
Abbas rejected that out of hand WRT Olmert. Arafat WRT Clinton Initiatives 2001 shira Mar 2016 #33
Abbas was not in power during the Clinton era and must we really revisit Olmert-again azurnoir Mar 2016 #34
No deflecting. Which 2-state solution going back 80 years do u support? n/t shira Mar 2016 #35
Lol perhaps you take your own advice :) azurnoir Mar 2016 #36
You butted in, which is fine. But I was talking about Tich... shira Mar 2016 #39
you brought up Abbas Olmert comment #33 - I replied to that I replied comment #34 azurnoir Mar 2016 #40
No deflecting you say? King_David Mar 2016 #37
No need when the subject has been debunked azurnoir Mar 2016 #42
Debunked by you? King_David Mar 2016 #43
well let's take a look again mmmkay azurnoir Mar 2016 #44
. King_David Mar 2016 #46
I support the one Abbas himself presented to the UN in 2011 azurnoir Mar 2016 #50
What are the details of this wonderful peace plan? shira Mar 2016 #54
Please provide an example of such a land swap so that can I understand what you mean. Little Tich Mar 2016 #47
Your position is so hardline extreme, you oppose the Arab Peace Initiative... shira Mar 2016 #55
I'm not against the Arab Peace Initiative, but it seems as if you are. Little Tich Mar 2016 #59
You're against land swaps, which means you're against the Arab Peace Initiative. shira Mar 2016 #61
It seems as if you've got difficulties forming a cogent argument about the land swaps. Little Tich Mar 2016 #62
I'm pointing out the fact that no 2 state proposal would be good enough for you.... shira Mar 2016 #64
Wasn't that offer withdrawn when Netanyahu took over, or do you think it's still valid? n/t Little Tich Mar 2016 #65
It's not whether I would deign to accept a peace proposal or not, it's only about whether it's Little Tich Mar 2016 #67
Here are 2 maps with 2 viable Palestinian states.... shira Mar 2016 #68
Those maps only prove my point. Little Tich Mar 2016 #69
Nonsense. If you're worried that the state isn't contiguous then see Olmert's.... shira Mar 2016 #70
The GDP per capita in the West Bank is 1974 US$, in Gaza it's 876 US$. Little Tich Mar 2016 #71
It's an example of a non-peace proposal. aranthus Mar 2016 #45
Is there any way the Arab Peace Initiative could be amended to become acceptable to Israel? Little Tich Mar 2016 #48
I do not think that anything acceptable to Israel would be offered or accepted by the other side. aranthus Mar 2016 #56
Add to that a #4 about legitimate security considerations (given Gaza). n/t shira Mar 2016 #58
That wouldn't leave enough land for a viable Palestinian capital in East Jerusalem, Little Tich Mar 2016 #60
The reason there aren't 2 states today is the same reason it didn't happen in 1947. shira Mar 2016 #63
I would like to point out that it's not always a good idea to draw a direct parallell between a Little Tich Mar 2016 #66
We heard that once already. Igel Mar 2016 #11
I think the chance for a viable two-state solution is less likely now than before Netanyahu. Little Tich Mar 2016 #19
No King_David Mar 2016 #24
About "right of return" 6chars Mar 2016 #13
There isn't one. aranthus Mar 2016 #14
Thanks for the clarification 6chars Mar 2016 #15
Can you link us to the part where Bibi welcomed it with open arms? I must have missed that part azurnoir Mar 2016 #16
I don't think there's anyone here who understands this post of yours, King_David Mar 2016 #20
Nope are you sure you understand the thread? maybe reread the title again azurnoir Mar 2016 #21
Can you link to the part where Biden presented it to Bibi? n/t aranthus Mar 2016 #22
actually it was an idea "floated by unnamed WH 'officials'" according to the Towers source -ToI azurnoir Mar 2016 #23
What has that to do with what Aranthus asked? King_David Mar 2016 #25
It deflects from it. aranthus Mar 2016 #26
Deflect is the right word for that reply we got King_David Mar 2016 #27
I'm questioning the veracity The Tower makes a claim and links to a ToI* article as proof azurnoir Mar 2016 #29
Deflect from this please azurnoir Mar 2016 #41
Of course he did leftynyc Mar 2016 #38
Sounds familiar somehow ..... Israeli Mar 2016 #49
Anyone have the text of the deal, not filtered through the Israel Project's propaganda pamphlet? Scootaloo Mar 2016 #51
WSJ maybe? at least that's where the road leads azurnoir Mar 2016 #53
I don't see it as a deal exactly do you? Mosby Mar 2016 #57
The Palestinians are fools. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #52
Why Abbas turned Biden down............ Israeli Mar 2016 #72
Abbas Rejects Peace and Palestinian Statehood, U.S. Media Rejects Coverage shira Apr 2016 #73
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