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Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
39. It's reasonable to fear what would happen if Jews in Israel gave political power to the Palestinians
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 04:52 AM
Sep 2015

in the occupied territories. I do think that if there is a way for those who were once disenfranchised to address their grievances through political means or by just being allowed equal treatment, there's little need for actual violence. Hamas doesn't have the same draw in a democratic environment as it does in Gaza. Perhaps the PLO would be more popular, but do Palestinians really think they can run a country?

Whether the endgame will result in one or two states is completely up to the Israelis. If Israel and it's allies like the US and the EU actually feared that the one-state solution would result in civil war, peace negotiations would have resulted in two states years ago.

I'm not a proponent of the one-state solution; any solution that takes into account the democratic rights of the Palestinians in the occupied territories and in the diaspora is a good one. If that would be the two-state solution, then so be it. However, any form of two-state solution must result in a Palestinian state that is as viable as Israel, or else it's the one-state solution by default.

Personally, I have very little hope for the two-state solution, and I think that the one-state solution must be on the table as a possible option. The way things are going, it will IMHO be an unavoidable option. Netanyahu is working very hard to destroy all other options. But if Jewish Israelis won't lose their democratic and political rights or their jobs, and the only difference will be that more people will have access to the same rights, why should the one-state solution be feared?

I agree GitRDun Sep 2015 #1
Hmm, UN Watch... Little Tich Sep 2015 #2
Why not just go to the actual FB posts and make your own judgement? oberliner Sep 2015 #3
I don't think that cartoon is inti-Semtic. ZombieHorde Sep 2015 #27
Are you familiar with the blood libel? oberliner Sep 2015 #28
Perhaps, but then why include the US? nt ZombieHorde Sep 2015 #38
To suggest Jewish control of America? oberliner Sep 2015 #43
Criticism of Israel is not ... 6chars Sep 2015 #45
It could represent Israeli control of the US. nt ZombieHorde Sep 2015 #46
Yes it could oberliner Sep 2015 #50
Netanyahu said America is a thing you can move very easily. ZombieHorde Sep 2015 #54
The message from that cartoon is Jews are bloodthirsty. shira Sep 2015 #29
I think the cartoon is saying Israel and the US are bloodthristy. nt ZombieHorde Sep 2015 #37
But associating a Jewish symbol with drinking a child's blood is a traditional antisemitic trope oberliner Sep 2015 #44
The blood libel didn't involve drinking blood though. ZombieHorde Sep 2015 #47
Kill children and love blood oberliner Sep 2015 #48
You know what I've noticed leftynyc Sep 2015 #4
It's confirmation bias. In Europe & Australia they're bombarded.... shira Sep 2015 #5
You're probably right about leftynyc Sep 2015 #6
Oh, I agree with you totally about sources. No questioning the anti-Israel ones... shira Sep 2015 #7
See post #12. n/t Little Tich Sep 2015 #13
You buy everything Mondoweiss sells despite their odious history. shira Sep 2015 #15
I like Mondoweiss. Little Tich Sep 2015 #17
Just know that when you’re reading Mondoweiss, you’re reading a hate site. oberliner Sep 2015 #18
Just went there to see 6chars Sep 2015 #19
Mondoweiss is an antisemitic hate site. King_David Sep 2015 #20
I don't know how it's possible to believe a fascist hate site can be credible.... shira Sep 2015 #22
The criticism is in the Atlantic article is weak and built on preconceived notions. Little Tich Sep 2015 #23
Mondoweiss: A Vipers' Nest of Antisemites oberliner Sep 2015 #24
I only had to read the second paragraph to get a reaction from my built in BS detector... Little Tich Sep 2015 #25
I've got to ask you to turn up your BS detector oberliner Sep 2015 #30
I would say that Mondoweiss is a voice for the left leaning support for Israel as a democratic Little Tich Sep 2015 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author 6chars Sep 2015 #33
You do have a point that Mondoweiss is mostly criticism of Israel, Little Tich Sep 2015 #35
we don't often see eye to eye 6chars Sep 2015 #36
It's reasonable to fear what would happen if Jews in Israel gave political power to the Palestinians Little Tich Sep 2015 #39
It's definitely not that oberliner Sep 2015 #34
"I nowadays feel a wave of irritation whenever I hear the word ‘shalom’ " oberliner Sep 2015 #49
It's indeed a strong indicator for anti-Semitism to feel irritated when hearing the word "Shalom". Little Tich Sep 2015 #51
Tich, do you believe it's possible to support & defend Hamas.... shira Sep 2015 #40
It's indeed possible - I think Jeremy Corbyn is a good example of that. Little Tich Sep 2015 #52
Can you explain how that's possible? shira Sep 2015 #55
I think you should ask that of a Corbyn supporter, not me. Little Tich Sep 2015 #57
First and fourth paragraphs: This! 6chars Sep 2015 #31
Besides being a hate site, which it is, you think Mondoweiss... shira Sep 2015 #21
Mondoweiss is primarily an opinion site. Little Tich Sep 2015 #26
It's a hate site. Here's why...besides supporting Hamas shira Sep 2015 #42
Truth! grossproffit Sep 2015 #8
Fortunately, your suspicions are unfounded. Little Tich Sep 2015 #9
That would be a lot more leftynyc Sep 2015 #10
Vacy Vlazna. Little Tich Sep 2015 #11
Here's my review of the If Americans Knew website: Little Tich Sep 2015 #12
funding by Jewish organizations does not mean non-credible 6chars Sep 2015 #14
Yup. n/t Little Tich Sep 2015 #16
UNRWA teacher posts this image after 4 Rabbis butchered w/ axes shira Sep 2015 #41
How do I know that the bloody axe is connected to dead rabbis - it might as well be support for IS? Little Tich Sep 2015 #53
It was posted on the very same day 4 Rabbis were axed to death in J-lem. n/t shira Sep 2015 #56
Chris Gunness of UNRWA goes full-on antisemitic..... shira Sep 2015 #58
Some folks here were fans of that Mondoweiss BS article as well oberliner Sep 2015 #59
The UNRWA Road to Terror: Palestinian Classroom Incitement shira May 2016 #60
Ugh. That's incitement against Palestinians, alright. Little Tich Jun 2016 #63
How is that incitement against Palestinians? Be clear.... shira Jun 2016 #64
The whole thing is peppered with unrelated clips of Palestinian violence, Little Tich Jun 2016 #65
But UNRWA really is inciting kids to hate & want to kill Jews... shira Jun 2016 #66
I think Bedein should lose his internet privileges and have to go bed without supper. Little Tich Jun 2016 #67
Here's the thing: It's already been proven that UNRWA incites hatred in its schools... shira Jun 2016 #68
Dr. Einat Wilf on Ask the Source discussing UNRWA and the perpetuation of Palestinian refugees Mosby Jun 2016 #61
She should run for PM. n/t shira Jun 2016 #62
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