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NNadir

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17. One can look at Table A.1.a on page 296 of the 2024 WEO to see how electricity is generated on this planet.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 02:16 PM
Nov 2024

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I have previously truncated my reproduction the table - to accommodate the limits of my graphics software - to delineate how primary energy is generated on this planet, but did not include the part involved in thermodynamically degraded electricity.

Let me work with the graphics to show the full table, which includes information about energy losses for the big "renewables will save us" efforts to push the destruction of rain forests for palm oil now running here, as well as the soothsaying predicted energy losses to make the fossil fuel generated hydrogen to pretend it's made from so called "renewable energy."




There now, it now includes the part of the table where one can discern that 8EJ + 8EJ (solar + wind) still doesn't equal 30 EJ (nuclear) even after trillions of dollars squandered to trash wilderness for so called "renewable energy."

Let's see, what it says about primary energy sources for producing thermodynamically degraded electricity, using real numbers as opposed to "percent talk."

8+8 still doesn't equal 30, nor does 8+8 equal the 115 EJ of coal energy to generate electricity, nor does 8+8 equal the 57 EJ of natural gas used to generate electricity. 8+8 does, however, slightly exceed the 15 EJ generated by renewable hydroelectricity, but with all the droughts underway because so called "renewable energy" did nothing at all to slow extreme global heating, and because we're fresh out of major rivers to destroy, there seems to be a limit on what hydroelectricity will produce. The 10 EJ of electricity produced by burning biofuels is offset by the 6 EJ of energy losses associated with producing biofuels.

As for IEA soothsaying about "by 2030," I note that I have every fucking volume of the WEO put out in the 21st century. The data is worthy of consideration, soothsaying not so much. I'm an old man. I've lived through "by 1990," "by 2000," "by 2010," and most recently "by 2020" soothsaying about the outbreak of the grand so called "renewable energy" nirvana.

Is it here yet?

Well, that depends entirely on one's sense of reality.

Something called "reality:"

Week beginning on November 03, 2024: 423.28 ppm
Weekly value from 1 year ago: 419.38 ppm
Weekly value from 10 years ago: 396.91 ppm
Last updated: November 09, 2024

Weekly average CO2 at Mauna Loa

By the way, my State, New Jersey, is breaking into flames now, along with places all over the world. I'm sure our faith based "renewables will save us" crowd is very, very, very pleased with themselves.

Maybe it's fear of reality that's driving the worldwide outbreak of fascism, since "renewables will save us" fantasies didn't cut it, did they?

Have a nice evening.

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There is one good thing about wind energy and gay texan Nov 2024 #1
Eric Idle on the cross. NNadir Nov 2024 #4
Energy.gov U.S. Department of Energy Projects Strong Growth in U.S. Wind Power Sector OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #2
I've been on DU for almost 22 years. If printed, I could fill a large box with all the soothsaying I've heard... NNadir Nov 2024 #5
Non sequitur OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #6
22 Years ago, you were a true believer in Nuclear Power OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #7
Thank you for claiming that you know better than I do what I was thinking 22 years ago. NNadir Nov 2024 #8
For 22 years, you've discounted anything and everything which was not nuclear fission. OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #9
It's amusing to hear that there are people... NNadir Nov 2024 #10
"Cult Thinking" OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #11
There are no number times that idiotic videos purportedly about myths can be posted that can make 8 + 8 equal 30. NNadir Nov 2024 #12
IEA: World Energy Outlook 2024 - Pathways for the energy mix OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #16
One can look at Table A.1.a on page 296 of the 2024 WEO to see how electricity is generated on this planet. NNadir Nov 2024 #17
IEA: Solar and wind to lead growth of U.S. power generation for the next two years OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #19
Oh wow. More soothsaying. The unit of energy, as people should learn in high school, is the Joule, not the Watt. NNadir Nov 2024 #26
More nonsense OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #27
Really, the claim that the Watt is not a unit of energy is nonsense? NNadir Nov 2024 #28
Global renewables: Pioneering the energy transition DW Documentary OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #3
The "Energy Transition" is a fucking lie; it doesn't exist, and delusional videos can't make it exist. NNadir Nov 2024 #13
As I have said from the beginning of my time on DU Finishline42 Nov 2024 #14
Yes, I know very well what apologists for the German burning of coal in 2024 say. I hear it all the time. NNadir Nov 2024 #15
Eurostat: Renewables take the lead in power generation in 2023 OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #20
IEA: CO2 emissions per capita in Germany OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #21
Wow!!!! We're saved!!!! Germany leads the world!!!!! Who cares if they're burning coal???? It's GREEN coal afterall. NNadir Nov 2024 #22
"It's all ... bullshit with no connection to the reality, typical of the type, delusional and quite toxic." OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #23
The reality is, reported with references, that Germany is deindustrializing because of high energy prices. NNadir Nov 2024 #24
Electricity prices in Germany rose because of fossil fuel prices (not renewables as you imply) OKIsItJustMe Nov 2024 #25
'Wind and solar overtook fossil fuels' - ? John ONeill Nov 2024 #18
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