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In reply to the discussion: Should the Phoenix Arise; the Bateman Equation and Wind Energy. [View all]NNadir
(34,684 posts)12. There are no number times that idiotic videos purportedly about myths can be posted that can make 8 + 8 equal 30.
Last edited Sat Nov 9, 2024, 06:37 AM - Edit history (3)
World Energy Outlook 2024
Table A1a: World energy supply Page 296. (Truncated to show primary energy only, and excluding the part where hydrogen consumes more energy than it provides.)
It's funny to hear antinukes complain that it takes too long to build nuclear plants, when their asinine solar and wind trillion dollar crap, in an atmosphere of mindless cheering, has never, not once, produced as much energy as nuclear energy does reliably in an atmosphere of mindless vituperation, and has been doing consistently for decades, not needing to fire up gas and coal plants every fucking day when the sun goes down and the wind stops blowing.
Apparently for antinukes 8 + 8 is greater than 30. One sees these things and one doesn't really want to believe it.
And then, they want to call out "myths." It's Orwellian, if not obscene.
It is not merely a myth, it's a fucking illiterate lie actually, to insist that the unit of energy is the Watt, particularly for systems that are unreliable in the extreme, as opposed to the Joule. Of course, one can only sell the bullshit about what is growing fast, if one claims that solar cells and wind cells operate at full power 24/7, 365 days a year, as many nuclear plants around the world have done, particularly in the United States.
And of course, we note that the trillion dollar solar industry between 2022 and 2023 grew by 2 Exajoules, from 6 Exajoules to 8 Exajoules, slower than coal, which grew by 3 Exajoules, from 172 Exajoules to 175 Exajoules.
Just as it is a mathematical truism that 8 + 8 is not equal to 30; it is also true that 175-172 = 3 is greater than 8-6 = 2. In percent talk in the period between 2022 and 2023, the use of coal grew 150% faster than the solar junk, all of which will be landfill in 25 years or less, not that antinukes give a flying fuck about coal.
Thank you German antinukes. Way to go!!!
But here are the important numbers, the numbers about which clearly solar and wind cults couldn't care less:
Week beginning on October 27, 2024: 423.15 ppm
Weekly value from 1 year ago: 418.90 ppm
Weekly value from 10 years ago: 397.57 ppm
Last updated: November 08, 2024
Weekly average CO2 at Mauna Loa
Excuse me if I'm uninterested in delusional propaganda videos that only serve the coal, gas, and oil industries which aren't going anywhere because this reactionary solar and wind shit hasn't done a damned fucking thing to address fossil fuel consumption. Nothing. Zero. Zilch.
And let's be clear, it is reactionary: Humanity abandoned dependence on the weather for energy in the 19th century for a reason, the chief one being something antinukes can't understand, reliability. People don't disconnect their refrigerators, surgical suites don't turn off the lights during periods of Dunkelflaute that can last for months at a time. They (I'm looking at you, Germany) burn coal and gas to keep the lights on.
As for me, I have serious things to do other than to watch tripe videos. I really, really, really don't take recommendations from people who wish to represent that 8 + 8 is larger than 30. I'd be embarrassed to do so.
The fucking planet is burning and as it does, around the world, the lie has become more valuable than the ability to recognize very, very, very simple truths, for example that 8 + 8 does not equal or exceed 30.
Have a pleasant weekend.
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Energy.gov U.S. Department of Energy Projects Strong Growth in U.S. Wind Power Sector
OKIsItJustMe
Nov 6
#2
I've been on DU for almost 22 years. If printed, I could fill a large box with all the soothsaying I've heard...
NNadir
Nov 7
#5
Thank you for claiming that you know better than I do what I was thinking 22 years ago.
NNadir
Nov 7
#8
For 22 years, you've discounted anything and everything which was not nuclear fission.
OKIsItJustMe
Nov 7
#9
There are no number times that idiotic videos purportedly about myths can be posted that can make 8 + 8 equal 30.
NNadir
Nov 8
#12
One can look at Table A.1.a on page 296 of the 2024 WEO to see how electricity is generated on this planet.
NNadir
Nov 9
#17
IEA: Solar and wind to lead growth of U.S. power generation for the next two years
OKIsItJustMe
Nov 9
#19
Oh wow. More soothsaying. The unit of energy, as people should learn in high school, is the Joule, not the Watt.
NNadir
Nov 10
#26
The "Energy Transition" is a fucking lie; it doesn't exist, and delusional videos can't make it exist.
NNadir
Nov 9
#13
Yes, I know very well what apologists for the German burning of coal in 2024 say. I hear it all the time.
NNadir
Nov 9
#15
Wow!!!! We're saved!!!! Germany leads the world!!!!! Who cares if they're burning coal???? It's GREEN coal afterall.
NNadir
Nov 9
#22
"It's all ... bullshit with no connection to the reality, typical of the type, delusional and quite toxic."
OKIsItJustMe
Nov 9
#23
The reality is, reported with references, that Germany is deindustrializing because of high energy prices.
NNadir
Nov 9
#24