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Bernardo de La Paz

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55. "They're trying to move mass with electrons... they need to move mass with mass"

Reply to mikelewis (Reply #48)

Thu Dec 14, 2023, 07:16 AM

Dec 2023

Only a person ignorant of basic physics would claim electrons have no mass.

They're trying to move mass with electrons... they need to move mass with mass

I am trying to get AI to help me fix the math

No amount of fixed math rescues a lack of understanding of basic physical concepts.

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Is emission-less propulsion possible? I believe it is... [View all] mikelewis Dec 2023 OP

Isn't this forum supposed to be at least partially science-based? NCIndie Dec 2023 #1

How lovely... and your proof that it's wrong is? mikelewis Dec 2023 #2

I really hope this is all tongue-in-cheek. If so, that's one for you! Just in case... NCIndie Dec 2023 #5

Ok... please read a little farther down the post please... There is no plan for a shotgun based propulsion design... mikelewis Dec 2023 #7

I read it before I posted. NCIndie Dec 2023 #9

I'm not an AI robot and your challenge was based on scientific inquiry. I responded in kind... mikelewis Dec 2023 #11

The recoil JackSabbath Dec 2023 #28

The recoil pulls the gun away from you? Indeed... but not completely.... mikelewis Dec 2023 #29

Interesting topic.... Think. Again. Dec 2023 #3

I think you're missing the point... none of those are useful for extended space travel... or can reach similar speeds mikelewis Dec 2023 #4

My apologies... Think. Again. Dec 2023 #15

All of those have a terrible carbon footprint. mikelewis Dec 2023 #21

It's an interesting concept... Think. Again. Dec 2023 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers Dec 2023 #25

That is one way to win an arguement... mikelewis Dec 2023 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers Dec 2023 #27

My apologies. Duppers Dec 2023 #34

Interesting. You mean no CO2 emissions during the operation of the vehicle. NCIndie Dec 2023 #6

This isn't about the energy required to run it.. that's still a problem... for a bit... we first have to see.... mikelewis Dec 2023 #8

Innovation starts with skeptics being skeptical. I'll take that role. NCIndie Dec 2023 #10

I built this idea fighting A for the past year... lol... so thank you I do appreciate skepticism. It built this idea. mikelewis Dec 2023 #12

Be combative! NCIndie Dec 2023 #13

That is precisely why I am here... I have had my ass handed to me so many times on this forum.... LOL mikelewis Dec 2023 #14

He gets more than combative Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #57

Not if construction is done... Think. Again. Dec 2023 #16

Ok. Namely....? NCIndie Dec 2023 #17

Namely what?... Think. Again. Dec 2023 #18

You're going to build a car with zero carbon footprint because of renewables+nuclear? NCIndie Dec 2023 #19

Yeah.... Think. Again. Dec 2023 #20

What about the force the projectile is exerting against the curved barrel? sl8 Dec 2023 #22

Correct! However... it's much less than you think... I was shocked too mikelewis Dec 2023 #23

I hate ads 😏 mikelewis Dec 2023 #24

And to prove that... here's all the math... mikelewis Dec 2023 #30

Here, I think, is the fundamental error - whether ChatGPT's or yours, I can't tell from the formatting muriel_volestrangler Dec 2023 #73

Well... if you say it... it must be so... mikelewis Dec 2023 #74

If you really want to understand, please take just one physics class caraher Dec 2023 #75

Holy monkey shit batman... you cracked it... fuck me mikelewis Dec 2023 #76

Subtext... mikelewis Dec 2023 #77

I did make one mistake caraher Dec 2023 #80

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OK, some numbers for position (Python? Why Python? This is a physics problem, not a numerical procedure) muriel_volestrangler Dec 2023 #81

After firing the total momentum is 0... mikelewis Dec 2023 #83

Can you try to write better, please? Your questions, or messages, are obscured by your style. muriel_volestrangler Dec 2023 #84

And now specifically to your point... mikelewis Dec 2023 #31

Why this is actually inline with physics... mikelewis Dec 2023 #32

The apparent paradox arises from a simplified view of the situation and is resolved when considering the full complexity mikelewis Dec 2023 #33

This part of the argument is where chatgpt is completely botching the physics. Salviati Dec 2023 #37

I said that outloud and a goat appeared in my living room... mikelewis Dec 2023 #38

Chat GPT is not a content expert. Salviati Dec 2023 #36

You are most certainly correct... mikelewis Dec 2023 #39

I don't understand, what does the letter 'O' have to do with it!? OKIsItJustMe Dec 2023 #40

You are most certainly correct... mikelewis Dec 2023 #61

I wouldn't trust ChatGPT to count my toes accurately. It wasn't written to do that. OKIsItJustMe Dec 2023 #41

This is one of those things... Salviati Dec 2023 #43

Indeed! "What if!?..." OKIsItJustMe Dec 2023 #45

Breaking the tyranny of the rocket equation would be a hell of a thing! Salviati Dec 2023 #46

Interesting... mikelewis Dec 2023 #44

It's an EmDrive. Better tests eliminate it. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #54

There's still some dispute OKIsItJustMe Dec 2023 #58

The IVO has test in orbit, past the minimum 1 month pre-test orbit Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #60

Frankly, I don't expect it to succeed either OKIsItJustMe Dec 2023 #63

Here's an experiment I am eager to see the results of OKIsItJustMe Dec 2023 #42

Very cool... mikelewis Dec 2023 #47

Here's the fix... mikelewis Dec 2023 #48

The problem is you have to carry those anvils. Salviati Dec 2023 #52

You only need two anvils... mikelewis Dec 2023 #53

"They're trying to move mass with electrons... they need to move mass with mass" Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #55

Call me "Mikey Poopie Pants!" mikelewis Dec 2023 #56

He did refute them, and you acknowledged as much OKIsItJustMe Dec 2023 #59

I lied... mikelewis Dec 2023 #67

ok Ptah Dec 2023 #68

Why would I pretend such a thing exists? mikelewis Dec 2023 #69

This might help: Ptah Dec 2023 #70

Not logic. "view count" is not equal to "copy-paste" nor equal to "don't understand the math" Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #62

Why on earth do you think I would be trying to use logic against you? mikelewis Dec 2023 #64

If you want to be taken seriously, and you clearly do, then don't be childish. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #65

I'm rubber and you're glue... mikelewis Dec 2023 #66

Please read: An Alternative Theory of Inertia will Get Tested in Space OKIsItJustMe Dec 2023 #49

Yeah... mikelewis Dec 2023 #50

scrolling hack mikelewis Dec 2023 #51

Mag lev trains use electricity Progressive dog Dec 2023 #71

You are of course correct... mikelewis Dec 2023 #72

I like ColinC Dec 2023 #78

Thank you... this is fun as hell 😃 mikelewis Dec 2023 #79