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Environment & Energy

Think. Again.

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22. It's a false concern....

Reply to NickB79 (Reply #20)

Sat Nov 11, 2023, 03:47 PM

Nov 2023

...the number of power poles we will need in addition to the existing ones, whether they're made of wood or whatever other material is best, is certainly not a serious enough concern to publicly feed the resistance to EVs or any other energy transition efforts.

Yes, the transition is going to entail a lot of details, and, yes, they will all have to be addressed, but if we keep fretting about each detail that those who are trying to slow the transition keep bringing up, we will never get started in the first place.

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We're Going To Have To Cut Down A Lot Of Big Trees To Upgrade The Electric Grid For EVs [View all] NickB79 Nov 2023 OP

Sounds like Big Oil propaganda DoBW Nov 2023 #1

Yeah... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #15

We could try burying those lines. thucythucy Nov 2023 #2

I agree, there's a lot of places where lines can, and should be buried. patphil Nov 2023 #11

Transmission Professionals Group: Overhead vs. Underground Power: Why Do We Use Both Locations? OKIsItJustMe Nov 2023 #30

One wonders then how the Europeans have managed so well thucythucy Nov 2023 #33

Well, the article does not seem to say that suspending the cables is clearly preferable OKIsItJustMe Nov 2023 #34

Going underground... Tikki Nov 2023 #3

Oh, it's more than that. Jirel Nov 2023 #4

My understanding is TX has one of the highest solar and wind KWh rates in the US Fiendish Thingy Nov 2023 #8

Doesn't have to come from fossil fuels Blues Heron Nov 2023 #9

You do realize... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #16

Well if you look at the math EV's have a lower carbon footprint CentralMass Nov 2023 #17

Did you consider.... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #23

I posted this before about a search engine that plants trees depending on your sereaches Maraya1969 Nov 2023 #5

Sold! DoBW Nov 2023 #6

Ever hear of underground power lines? Fiendish Thingy Nov 2023 #7

Underground is much more expensive to install NickB79 Nov 2023 #12

This article was about the periodic replacement of wood poles Fiendish Thingy Nov 2023 #13

It's about replacing existing poles with larger poles NickB79 Nov 2023 #19

or other materials to be used. Think. Again. Nov 2023 #24

Sure. Steel could be subbed in NickB79 Nov 2023 #25

Or any other suitable material. Think. Again. Nov 2023 #26

It takes 1.6 tons of ore to yield 1 ton of steel NickB79 Nov 2023 #29

My personal experience with power lines RainCaster Nov 2023 #35

Interesting. Some more info: sl8 Nov 2023 #10

UH-OH!... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #14

If that's all you got from the article NickB79 Nov 2023 #20

It's a false concern.... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #22

I for one am quite concerned about harvesting old growth timber NickB79 Nov 2023 #27

Yes, we WILL be screwed... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #31

Let's build a society where people are not forced to own or subsidize cars. hunter Nov 2023 #18

Hear, hear! (nt) CoopersDad Nov 2023 #36

Don't worry, be happy. Clear cut forests make great former wilderness for wind turbine industrial parks. NNadir Nov 2023 #21

we need to do a massive upgrade of our Voltaire2 Nov 2023 #28

Old poles wear out and are being maintained with wraps and underground injections bucolic_frolic Nov 2023 #32