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Jirel

(2,259 posts)
4. Oh, it's more than that.
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 09:44 AM
Nov 2023

I wanted to go solar at home. The companies were happy to provide panels and installation. The only problem was, they wanted us to install on a part of a roof where there are lots of old trees that provide shade to the house. So we gave solar a pass. In broiling Texas summers, which tend to last 6 mo this out of the year, what we’d lose in shade cooling could never be made up with more solar electricity to power the overworked AC unit.

Similarly, I’m giving EVs a hard pass. Where is all the power coming from to charge them? Fossil fuels. All we are doing, at present, is moving the fossil fuels out of the engine and into the power plants. Maybe, years from now, we’ll have enough true renewable generation to power a rising number of electric cars. But where I live, there isn’t enough reliable generation to keep even buildings livable in either that 6 months of oppressive heat or the cold snaps that everyone forgets about until they lose power and water. When we hit a critical mass of EVs, the grid will have to expand greatly (it already needs that!). What will we be using? More fossil fuel. Because I know how this state rolls.

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Sounds like Big Oil propaganda DoBW Nov 2023 #1
Yeah... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #15
We could try burying those lines. thucythucy Nov 2023 #2
I agree, there's a lot of places where lines can, and should be buried. patphil Nov 2023 #11
Transmission Professionals Group: Overhead vs. Underground Power: Why Do We Use Both Locations? OKIsItJustMe Nov 2023 #30
One wonders then how the Europeans have managed so well thucythucy Nov 2023 #33
Well, the article does not seem to say that suspending the cables is clearly preferable OKIsItJustMe Nov 2023 #34
Going underground... Tikki Nov 2023 #3
Oh, it's more than that. Jirel Nov 2023 #4
My understanding is TX has one of the highest solar and wind KWh rates in the US Fiendish Thingy Nov 2023 #8
Doesn't have to come from fossil fuels Blues Heron Nov 2023 #9
You do realize... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #16
Well if you look at the math EV's have a lower carbon footprint CentralMass Nov 2023 #17
Did you consider.... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #23
I posted this before about a search engine that plants trees depending on your sereaches Maraya1969 Nov 2023 #5
Sold! DoBW Nov 2023 #6
Ever hear of underground power lines? Fiendish Thingy Nov 2023 #7
Underground is much more expensive to install NickB79 Nov 2023 #12
This article was about the periodic replacement of wood poles Fiendish Thingy Nov 2023 #13
It's about replacing existing poles with larger poles NickB79 Nov 2023 #19
or other materials to be used. Think. Again. Nov 2023 #24
Sure. Steel could be subbed in NickB79 Nov 2023 #25
Or any other suitable material. Think. Again. Nov 2023 #26
It takes 1.6 tons of ore to yield 1 ton of steel NickB79 Nov 2023 #29
My personal experience with power lines RainCaster Nov 2023 #35
Interesting. Some more info: sl8 Nov 2023 #10
UH-OH!... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #14
If that's all you got from the article NickB79 Nov 2023 #20
It's a false concern.... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #22
I for one am quite concerned about harvesting old growth timber NickB79 Nov 2023 #27
Yes, we WILL be screwed... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #31
Let's build a society where people are not forced to own or subsidize cars. hunter Nov 2023 #18
Hear, hear! (nt) CoopersDad Nov 2023 #36
Don't worry, be happy. Clear cut forests make great former wilderness for wind turbine industrial parks. NNadir Nov 2023 #21
we need to do a massive upgrade of our Voltaire2 Nov 2023 #28
Old poles wear out and are being maintained with wraps and underground injections bucolic_frolic Nov 2023 #32
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