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duffyduff

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55. Stupidest idea EVER

Reply to Addison (Original post)

Wed May 8, 2013, 10:04 AM

May 2013

Kids are the least qualified to judge K-12 teacher "effectiveness."

Hentoff should stick with civil liberties issues.

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Why Not Teacher Evaluations by Students? [View all] Addison May 2013 OP

No shit, right? Who, in the end, are the clients, the customers? NYC_SKP May 2013 #1

How does your comment relate to teacher evaluations by the students? Buzz Clik May 2013 #3

Students traditionally are powerless. Letting them evaluate teachers would go against tradition. NYC_SKP May 2013 #4

I don't know. I think that teacher evaluations by a bunch of hormone poisoned kids... Buzz Clik May 2013 #5

"hormone poisoned kids"????????? Addison May 2013 #7

You ever have a 14-year-old boy or girl in your home for more than 2 hours? Buzz Clik May 2013 #10

Folks said the same kinds of things about blacks Addison May 2013 #16

save that all kids are that way DonCoquixote May 2013 #27

Ageist. Neoma May 2013 #49

Brain research. LWolf May 2013 #54

Be careful Addison May 2013 #62

What the poster described is not pseudo-science. And to liken it to phrenology is quite bizarre. Squinch May 2013 #67

It isn't pseudo-science. LWolf May 2013 #74

Citing "brain research" Addison May 2013 #75

No. LWolf May 2013 #80

LOL!!!!!! Buzz Clik May 2013 #57

Seemed to strike a nerve Addison May 2013 #60

Yeah, you're trying to bait me. Buzz Clik May 2013 #61

You're baiting yourself, and I'm just reeling you in Addison May 2013 #63

We're CRK7376 May 2013 #56

Yep. Buzz Clik May 2013 #58

Yes, I do think most teachers of adolescents ask them on some basis to say what was good and what mbperrin May 2013 #77

Just a guess: you don't spend a lot of time in schools, right? Squinch May 2013 #26

Spent most of my life in schools Addison May 2013 #29

Your wording is very careful. In what capacity did you spend most of your life in schools? Squinch May 2013 #31

Not that I think it matters Addison May 2013 #40

And who said that children don't have thoughts and feelings and perspectives? Squinch May 2013 #46

Squinch, you said it was "silly" to ask kids . . . Addison May 2013 #48

I am not afraid of anything. But here are some realities: Squinch May 2013 #50

We're not arguing over the same topic Addison May 2013 #52

And if the children's opinions of their teachers becomes part of the evaluation, how are you going Squinch May 2013 #65

And should administrators never be allowed to fire a teacher? Addison May 2013 #68

On the say so of a child? Squinch May 2013 #69

Of course. Addison May 2013 #70

Really, you are too much. Have a nice day. Squinch May 2013 #71

Here's one. I teach seniors. Young lady spills a drink in class, so I hand her some paper towels we mbperrin May 2013 #78

And if she handed in excellent work, according to your standards, Addison May 2013 #79

If your attitude is shared by other adults in these kids' lives, then they don't have much chance. NYC_SKP May 2013 #9

And you'd be willing to let them have decision making power over your employment? Buzz Clik May 2013 #11

I would not give them sole power, any more than I'd use just one form of assessment for them. NYC_SKP May 2013 #12

Well, it is a crazy idea! marew May 2013 #32

Well said Addison May 2013 #14

Putting aside the disgusting fact that Cato provided this... Buzz Clik May 2013 #2

I do find the fact that Hentoff joined the Cato Institute one of life's great mysteries Addison May 2013 #6

There are teachers who should be banned from the classroom until the end of time. Buzz Clik May 2013 #8

Because being children- marew May 2013 #20

Wow is right Addison May 2013 #23

So you are comparing children to animals! Really? marew May 2013 #36

Nothing simple and primitive about reading Addison May 2013 #41

no mystery at all. hentoff is a winger. HiPointDem May 2013 #81

You have that right! marew May 2013 #17

I'm not suggesting teachers don't care Addison May 2013 #21

Of course they care! marew May 2013 #37

. Squinch May 2013 #22

Thanks marew May 2013 #39

I think it would be very easy to go through the Squinch May 2013 #42

You are so on target! n/t marew May 2013 #45

This is really very silly. Squinch May 2013 #13

What if we had no idea what kids "need" to learn Addison May 2013 #15

We have a pretty good idea what kids in grade school need to know. Even Bill Gates. Squinch May 2013 #19

I work with kids, too Addison May 2013 #28

What you are suggesting has nothing to do with giving children credit for their intelligence. Squinch May 2013 #33

Come on! marew May 2013 #44

Right! marew May 2013 #43

Excellent post! n/t marew May 2013 #18

+1 MichiganVote May 2013 #30

agreed 100 percent.... mike_c May 2013 #34

Well said Addison May 2013 #47

I think we are talking about two different things.... mike_c May 2013 #73

I've seen it countless times where a teacher is Squinch May 2013 #51

I agree with some CRK7376 May 2013 #59

Because DonCoquixote May 2013 #24

EXACTLY! marew May 2013 #38

Old issue on Long Island HockeyMom May 2013 #25

I was not involved in K-12 education.... chillfactor May 2013 #35

There isn't any reason not to have students evaluate teachers. FBaggins May 2013 #53

Ask a first grader "how many times they are called on to interact with the content," and his answer Squinch May 2013 #66

Stupidest idea EVER duffyduff May 2013 #55

Can we pick the students? My 1st graders love me. proud2BlibKansan May 2013 #64

Some college kids could do it just fine. Igel May 2013 #72

The evaluation of teaching skills is difficult at best, even when done by experts. Student may ladjf May 2013 #76

professsors greymattermom May 2013 #82