Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Personal Finance and Investing

Showing Original Post only (View all)

question everything

(48,799 posts)
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 01:00 PM Aug 2019

About to Retire? Check Your Stock Exposure--Quickly [View all]

There are a lot of people thinking of retiring now because the bull market has boosted their 401(k)s. But they may need to re-evaluate their allocations. And quickly. Over the past decade, the S&P 500 has returned more than 13% on an annualized basis. And studies show that this is exactly when a lot of people choose to retire—the height of a bull market, when their portfolio is plump. But those same studies show that people who retire at bull-market peaks have a higher chance of running out of money. That is because they wrongly assume big returns will continue to pile up—and then they lose a big chunk of cash when bear markets arrive.

So, investors about to retire may want to re-evaluate how their money is allocated. To assist in that effort, we ran a simulation showing how various portfolio allocations performed for someone who had retired in 2000, the beginning of a bear market, followed by another later in the decade. We cherry-picked a retirement date with bad years at the beginning of the period, to counter the tendency for investors to focus on recent bull-market returns. For withdrawals, we applied one version of the “4% rule” that advisers often use, assuming retirees take out 4% of their account the first year, and then increase the dollar value of the initial amount by 3% in each subsequent year to account for inflation. Our simulation didn’t account for taxes, however.

We had our theoretical investor retire in 2000 with $500,000 fully invested in the S&P 500. Using the 4% rule, that nest egg eroded to less than $200,000 at the end of 2018. Why? Although the S&P 500 produced a 4.86% annualized return over the 18 years of our study—and, of course, 13% returns from 2009 through 2018—it experienced two declines of roughly 50% (2000-02 and 2008-early 2009) within the first decade. Bad early years in a withdrawal phase can crush a portfolio; the double whammy of withdrawals and losses means there isn’t enough money or time left for a roaring market later on to restore a portfolio to its original balance later.

A $500,000 investment in a balanced allocation (60% stocks, 40% bonds) would have been worth around $424,000 in 2018 using the 4% withdrawal rule. And a conservative portfolio (30% stocks/70% bonds) would have had around $508,000 at the end of 2018. That is mainly because bond-heavy portfolios protected against big losses in the early years. Bonds’ annualized returns for the whole period of the study were on par with those of stocks—4.84% for bonds vs. 4.86% for stocks—but bond returns held steady in the market downturns. In 2000-02, bonds gained a cumulative 33.5%, and they returned 5.2% in 2008-09. All of this means investors on the verge of retirement should contemplate having no more than 60% stock exposure and might prefer less.

(snip)

Whether or not investors use these funds, they should think about their current allocations or consult their financial adviser. The question they need to ask is: If they are going the traditional route, and consuming 3% to 4% of their saved assets every year, do they really want to bet that the bull market will continue?


https://www.wsj.com/articles/about-to-retire-check-your-stock-exposurequickly-11564970680 (paid subscription)




Could not copy the markings so here are the descriptions:

The amounts are from 2000 to 2019. The starting point is $500,000

The black line, on top is Conservative 30 stocks/70 bonds

The blue line, in the middle is Balanced 60 stocks/40 bond

and the grey line, at the bottom is S&P 500 Total Return

5 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Latest Discussions»Culture Forums»Personal Finance and Investing»About to Retire? Check Yo...»Reply #0