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nomorenomore08

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20. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater, so to speak. I certainly don't disagree with that.

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Tue Jul 9, 2013, 09:23 PM

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Tough Guise: Violence, Media & the Crisis in Masculinity [View all] redqueen Dec 2011 OP

Yes and no. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2011 #1

Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater, so to speak. I certainly don't disagree with that. nomorenomore08 Jul 2013 #20

So can I come into the Feminists group and post a video of what I think women should be like? Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #2

Let me answer that -- no. nt. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #12

+ 1000 opiate69 Feb 2012 #13

good point, not sure anybody has the rights answers when it comes to stuff like this loli phabay Jul 2013 #15

+1 nomorenomore08 Jul 2013 #21

Crap, I can't even get along with -myself-, some days. Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #30

i cant even go there. I was a big meanie! galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #19

lol.. join the club... opiate69 Jul 2013 #22

he is a saint with the gift of patience, to be sure. nt galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #25

Bwahahaha! lumberjack_jeff Jul 2013 #31

I watched it dipsydoodle Dec 2011 #3

Its so much more than just violence that needs to be addressed. HuskiesHowls Dec 2011 #4

"where males are taught from little up that they have to be the provider" ISNT paternalistic galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #27

Good point!! HuskiesHowls Jul 2013 #43

This is tough to believe Doctor_J Jul 2013 #38

As a society, we are taught violence wins. HuskiesHowls Jul 2013 #44

Jackson Katz is full of it.. Upton Dec 2011 #5

The world is changing. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2011 #6

The world may be changing.. Upton Dec 2011 #7

What "attributes" are you talking about? plantwomyn Dec 2011 #8

What to attribute the "seeming acceptance of violence against women and children"? lumberjack_jeff Dec 2011 #9

You state that the "operative phrase is "seeming" plantwomyn Dec 2011 #10

"women's responsibility for teaching sons and... the men around them" lumberjack_jeff Dec 2011 #11

pretty sure the last people i would want advising me are the extreme feminists loli phabay Jul 2013 #16

I'm not sure I'd ever take my cue from you. radicalliberal Jul 2013 #14

mens problems are caused by men listening to bullshit like this. galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #18

Nonathletic boys' problems are caused by those who tell them that they're less manly . . . radicalliberal Jul 2013 #26

ah, man you seem cool and I'm not trying to down you. i respect your experience. galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #28

Thank you very much for the kind compliments. :) radicalliberal Jul 2013 #33

I think you're conflating machismo and masculinity unfairly. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2013 #32

You've made a good point. :) radicalliberal Jul 2013 #34

^ Wall of truth Dash87 Jul 2013 #36

I agree! Do you know what's ludicrous? radicalliberal Jul 2013 #40

Attack of the zombie thread!!! opiate69 Jul 2013 #41

Excellent! lol radicalliberal Jul 2013 #42

great example of a "nice guy" attempting to engender himself to the ladies (and get laid) galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #17

I guess I'm not quite so cynical about it. I believe his intentions are good, but as you put it nomorenomore08 Jul 2013 #23

i totally understand and appreciate your view galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #24

I do think there's a good bit of truth to what you just said. nomorenomore08 Jul 2013 #29

Not really... rrneck Jul 2013 #35

+1000. A must-see TED talk. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jul 2013 #39

That reminds me. I haven't watched Hard Target in probably a year Doctor_J Jul 2013 #37