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ElboRuum

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43. Fairly chosen as per the idea of the tumblr itself.
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 07:56 PM
Jan 2013

Of course.

1. Were they purporting to be a "nice guy (tm)"? I can't imagine that NG1 and NG2 were seen as anything by the assholes they were and certainly not "nice guys (tm)". If they were purporting to be, yeah, that would be funny. But that's not the point of it precisely, was anyone pulled in with that dragnet, who was purporting to be a nice guy but wasn't the asshole? Is the mere fact of purporting to be "nice" while at the same time not being immediately seen to be attractive or perhaps obviously socially inept or awkward or otherwise desirable enough to rate you a spot on the nefarious "list o' nice guyz (tm)"? According to some of the statements upthread (which I also can't verify) our friend Hugo pulled only the worst out for example. If true, I'm inclined to believe that any creature who had the audacity to be awkward, unattractive, and/or had a goofy profile on OKCupid was fair game whether they were "nice guys" or not.

2. Were they complaining, in reference to #1, to being "friendzoned" and "not getting laid" or some variant thereof? Similarly to #1, was anyone pulled into this callout in any mistaken way? Were they complaining in such a way where they believed that they were "entitled" to sex or a relationship, or is this perception of "entitlement" the audacity to try to start a sexual relationship with a willing partner on a site seemingly dedicated to the purpose? Or was the crime being ugly or inept and trying?

I suspect it may have gotten shut down due to a TOS violation. I don't have a tumblr account so I can't speak to it, but I suspect enough people got annoyed with being ridiculed on a completely different site than the one they signed up for that quite a bit of complaint ensued, from "nice guys" and any actual nice guys that got drawn in with the "nice guys".

The point is that the tumblr was set up for the sole purpose of the ridicule of people that some people view as sadsacks, misfits, and/or creeps by whatever definition they use. Maybe some are misogynistic assholes, certainly NG1 and NG2 are clearly this, but then maybe some aren't, and this tumblr was burying an axe straight in the heads of those people without much real concern for who those people were. And why would they have concern? Making fun of people we deem pathetic is the American way, isn't it? I've seen this kind of nonsense in real life and it isn't pretty. We called it bullying back in the day, but I guess I don't live in that world anymore.

I am an atheist and I don't believe in karma, at least not in the spiritual or religious sense. I do think, however, if you put negative shit out there, it tends to drop back on you. Not because of some spiritual connection to the universe, but because of simple human desire for equanimity and where necessary, reciprocity. And this tumblr account was all about the negative, and worse, they made it personal. I hope someone took enough umbrage to this to give it the reciprocity it deserved.

Isn't the whole point of something like "OK Cupid" to put oneself out there as a potential partner? Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #1
Ah, come on libodem Jan 2013 #2
Isn't the whole point of a dating site like "OK Cupid" to promote oneself to potential partners? Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #3
Hi libodem Jan 2013 #19
Where did the false flag of "feel entitled to" come from? Bonobo Jan 2013 #4
okay libodem Jan 2013 #5
The idea that Hugo is promoting is bullshit Major Nikon Jan 2013 #7
If "friendzoned" is such an offensive term.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2013 #13
And i would add that There is nothing wrong with anyone- of either gender- looking for Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #24
Sounds like "Hugo" has some issues of his own. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #26
hey libodem Jan 2013 #20
No problem. nt Bonobo Jan 2013 #23
Its a confusingly constructed article. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #25
The article wasn't aimed at nice guys. caseymoz Jan 2013 #6
The ambiguity in the tone of the article stems from the phenomena I am getting at. Bonobo Jan 2013 #8
The problem comes in with his definition of "dick" Major Nikon Jan 2013 #9
Well,speaking as an epsilon male. Denninmi Jan 2013 #10
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #11
Hmmm. Would similar, enthusiastic defense of the pillorying of a "fat acceptance" blog for women be Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #15
I think the men's group needs some sanctuary... NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #17
Like I said, that question wasn't directed at you. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #18
The people trolling this group for reasons to hide posts are pathetic. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #21
Wow. Bonobo Jan 2013 #22
The guy in the profile seems like an asshole ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2013 #12
He didn't pick the ones that people were ridiculing Major Nikon Jan 2013 #14
I can't make heads or tails out of it, because it's been photoshopped into illegibility. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #16
Wow! I will admit that I haven't taken the time to study this particular controversy . . . radicalliberal Jan 2013 #27
There are a lot of axes- that need constant grinding. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #28
How true! How true! radicalliberal Jan 2013 #29
Oh, that would never happen. Never. Denninmi Jan 2013 #30
I assume you're referring to Hugo Schwyzer. radicalliberal Jan 2013 #31
Well, really I was thinking in more general terms, Denninmi Jan 2013 #32
I see what you were thinking. There is a lot of that going around. radicalliberal Jan 2013 #33
That is so cool. I love it. Denninmi Jan 2013 #35
The point of the article, I believe, is sexual entitlement. Dash87 Jan 2013 #34
To a degree. ElboRuum Jan 2013 #36
'Nice Guy' #1 - Do you believe that men should be the heads of their households? "Yes." redqueen Jan 2013 #37
Apparently, at this time the point is moot. ElboRuum Jan 2013 #38
Fairly chosen how? redqueen Jan 2013 #39
That's one great thing about the internet. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #40
You compared misogynist assholes to overweight, unattractive women... redqueen Jan 2013 #41
If a woman posted on a fat acceptance blog that "most men are shallow shits who only want Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #42
It's a great question ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2013 #44
And the point isn't that these guys are shining examples of humanity. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #47
It was basically a "See....we found some assholes who say they are nice guys!" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2013 #48
Again, it's this lame idea that there are these defective stereotypical "types" of men. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #51
Fairly chosen as per the idea of the tumblr itself. ElboRuum Jan 2013 #43
+1. They feel like they're entitled to any women they want. Dash87 Jan 2013 #45
And again, if you were to read, say, a "fat acceptance blog" where women complained about Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #46
That statement would be misandry. Dash87 Jan 2013 #49
I think the whole "nice guy" thing is a trope. It's a trope from the end of the guys who say Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #50
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