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TreasonousBastard

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2. I spent around 20 or so years as a insurance underwriter...
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:38 AM
Oct 2012

insuring ships and cargos but the principle is the same-- you rate on the experience of an account or a class.

Don't have time to read the articles, but I doubt there's much actuarial data about the difference in claim frequency or expense between men and women, but when we talk about "equal coverage" are we including pregnancy and birth? Men don't have regular gynecological services and don't seem to go to the doctor much at all unless necessary. But, does this not going for checkups end up costing more when simple conditions turn complicated? Or, does more physical trauma with men equal out the costs?

Most people not in the business don't understand that the "insurance" part of a policy is for unexpected expenses, not normal expenses. If you are going to experience $1,000 in claims in a normal year, the premium starts at $1,000 and goes up from there-- the company isn't in the business of paying your bills. If one year you have a $100,000 claim, that's why you bought the insurance.

This principle works for both an account or a class. If we're talking about a class, like male drivers under 25 or post menopausal women, the total "normal" costs for all members of that class are spread among all of them and the premiums go up from there.

Messing with the system for political purposes doesn't change the arithmetic, just moves the bills around.





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Exactly right. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #1
I spent around 20 or so years as a insurance underwriter... TreasonousBastard Oct 2012 #2
"Messing with the system for political purposes doesn't change the arithmetic . . . " 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #6
Lots of actuarial data exists. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #10
Oops! Just reread my post and what I meant was... TreasonousBastard Oct 2012 #11
Try as I might- digonswine Oct 2012 #3
In both cases people are charged more due to their gender 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #4
I'm glad you were not comparing the two as equal- digonswine Oct 2012 #5
As I explained upthread, they are equivalent... TreasonousBastard Oct 2012 #7
I understand that from the insurer's viewpoint- digonswine Oct 2012 #8
I agree with all that 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #13
I'm not even sure how you would make the argument from a social justice viewpoint Major Nikon Oct 2012 #17
I plug any argument or discussion around Health Insurance into my operating system, and I always get Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #9
"US gets single payer health care system! Women expected to be benefit most" 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #12
Everyone would win. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #14
I would go two steps farther Major Nikon Oct 2012 #16
Hmm, I would think that a SPHC funded through taxes would do that sort of automatically Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #19
Just because something is discriminatory, doesn't mean it's wrong Major Nikon Oct 2012 #15
Yup. The opposite of "discriminate" is "indiscriminate" lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #18
I think it is counterproductive to universal and/or single payer Major Nikon Oct 2012 #20
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