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lumberjack_jeff

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6. You're touching on my second problem with it.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 10:24 AM
Oct 2012

The cultural normalization of it. Porn is useful because it is based on fantasy. There is nothing wrong with fantasy, except to the extent that it displaces and distorts the expectations of the more mundane beneficial experiences and pursuits that we can participate in.

On a scale of 1-10, I'm a "5". Why ask the nice "6" lady next door out for dinner when "10" on the video right now and doesn't require dinner or conversation? Besides what would I say to a real person?

It contributes to our social alienation. People don't have bowling clubs, fraternal organizations or other social avenues because we have a torrent of stimuli available to us with a button click.

I dispute the idea that porn is simply a reflection of a healthy sex drive - I think it's more a reflection of a frustrated sex drive that becomes more frustrated the more it is keyed to an unreal set of circumstances. Further, to accept your premise is to accept the idea that all normal people watch it and that if you don't, it's because you're not virile.

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Art of Manliness: the problem with porn [View all] lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 OP
Okay, for starts, define "compulsion". I'm not the statistical expert, but I do think it's fairly Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #1
Fully agree regarding 1st amendment issues. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #3
Well, again, like other things I think the problem is when a recreational activity bleeds into work. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #4
You make a good point about pot. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Oct 2012 #2
You're touching on my second problem with it. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Oct 2012 #7
It's an unavoidable implication. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Oct 2012 #9
A strong sex drive is part of the definition of "virile" lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Oct 2012 #12
One problem with these arguments, such as they are, are the way they combine anecdote, Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #13
I dunno. This is a discussion board. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #14
Fair enough. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #15
I've never speculated what they "did with it" lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #16
Couple things, then I'm outty~ Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #17
Compelling argument. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #20
The rates of women using porn is up significantly Major Nikon Oct 2012 #22
I know just saying this causes some people to get apopleptic with sputtering outrage, but--- Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #23
MRA!!!!!!!!!!! opiate69 Oct 2012 #24
Evo psych heteronomative male gaze phallopressor! Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #26
I'm not so sure Major Nikon Oct 2012 #25
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #30
Interesting, to say the least. Denninmi Oct 2012 #5
I agree that if you view it as a problem then it is a problem 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #18
Well, actually, I kind of got a fresh perspective on this by reading Warren's last post Denninmi Oct 2012 #19
I don't buy any of his arguments Major Nikon Oct 2012 #21
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #27
Alerted. This is not funny, this ppr'd troll should have gotten the hint after it was hidden in GD stevenleser Oct 2012 #28
"Dutch Liberal" Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #29
There are only two kinds of people I hate . . . 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #31
Same category as Illinois Nazis? n/t Goblinmonger Oct 2012 #32
I'll say one thing about this group. WE GET THE BEST CALIBER TROLLS OF ANYWHERE ON DU, DAMMIT! Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #33
I think it would be interesting 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #34
Yeah Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #35
I have little doubt that an especially pernicious troll hifiguy Oct 2012 #36
Yes, like the mellifluous clomp clomp clomp Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #37
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