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Warren DeMontague

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1. Okay, for starts, define "compulsion". I'm not the statistical expert, but I do think it's fairly
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 08:23 PM
Oct 2012

well established that most men masturbate regularly and pretty frequently, throughout their adult lives.

Like, at least several times a week. Probably, for at least half of the adult men in the world, it's once a day or more.

Is this "compulsive" behavior? It's pretty friggin' regular, that's for sure. And frequent. But if most men do it, does that mean it's inherently "natural"? "Unnatural"?

And this is irregardless of what they're looking at, while they're doing it.

Where I think people get the "compulsion" thing from is, people doing something habitually and regularly that they would do anyway, are now doing it to porn. Or now it's a stack of magazines under the mattress, so it must be a problem. Or now it's on the internet, so it must be a problem.

Holy shit! Look, he's masturbating every day to porn, compulsively! Okay, so if it wasn't porn, it would be the Sears Bra ads. If it wasn't those, it would be a painting. Or a carved soapstone female fertility figurine. COMPULSION!!



I'm not, personally, "pro or anti" porn for everyone. Some people like porn, some don't. Great. Some people hate the Grateful Dead, I like the Grateful Dead. Choice is a Wonderful thing.

However, it distresses me to see progressive make anti-freedom or anti-first amendment arguments (which your thread is not, Jeff) which is one reason I'm so outspoken on the issue. I'm pretty solidly on the side of the 1st Amendment. And, I'm pretty opposed to the religious right or anyone who wants to take the agency away from consenting adults to make their own decisions. This is why I'm also against the Drug War.


I'll have more to say on this later. Interesting read.

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Art of Manliness: the problem with porn [View all] lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 OP
Okay, for starts, define "compulsion". I'm not the statistical expert, but I do think it's fairly Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #1
Fully agree regarding 1st amendment issues. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #3
Well, again, like other things I think the problem is when a recreational activity bleeds into work. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #4
You make a good point about pot. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Oct 2012 #2
You're touching on my second problem with it. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Oct 2012 #7
It's an unavoidable implication. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Oct 2012 #9
A strong sex drive is part of the definition of "virile" lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Oct 2012 #12
One problem with these arguments, such as they are, are the way they combine anecdote, Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #13
I dunno. This is a discussion board. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #14
Fair enough. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #15
I've never speculated what they "did with it" lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #16
Couple things, then I'm outty~ Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #17
Compelling argument. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #20
The rates of women using porn is up significantly Major Nikon Oct 2012 #22
I know just saying this causes some people to get apopleptic with sputtering outrage, but--- Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #23
MRA!!!!!!!!!!! opiate69 Oct 2012 #24
Evo psych heteronomative male gaze phallopressor! Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #26
I'm not so sure Major Nikon Oct 2012 #25
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #30
Interesting, to say the least. Denninmi Oct 2012 #5
I agree that if you view it as a problem then it is a problem 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #18
Well, actually, I kind of got a fresh perspective on this by reading Warren's last post Denninmi Oct 2012 #19
I don't buy any of his arguments Major Nikon Oct 2012 #21
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #27
Alerted. This is not funny, this ppr'd troll should have gotten the hint after it was hidden in GD stevenleser Oct 2012 #28
"Dutch Liberal" Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #29
There are only two kinds of people I hate . . . 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #31
Same category as Illinois Nazis? n/t Goblinmonger Oct 2012 #32
I'll say one thing about this group. WE GET THE BEST CALIBER TROLLS OF ANYWHERE ON DU, DAMMIT! Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #33
I think it would be interesting 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #34
Yeah Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #35
I have little doubt that an especially pernicious troll hifiguy Oct 2012 #36
Yes, like the mellifluous clomp clomp clomp Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #37
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