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Major Nikon

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36. This is where the double standard comes in

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 10:35 PM

Sep 2012

Certain women view the selection of a mate on their appearance as somehow "objectifying" or devaluing women while defending their own preference which is really just as instinctual and shallow, if not more so. It feeds into their whole flawed notion that women are somehow more highly evolved because their preferences are different and it also feeds the flawed notion that sex and sexual attraction is wrong.

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No Job? No Date for You! [View all] Bonobo Sep 2012 OP

In any species females tend to be like that. caseymoz Sep 2012 #1

If you are going to go all socio-biological on me... Bonobo Sep 2012 #2

Of course I agree with that. caseymoz Sep 2012 #3

To the extent that "sex object" is a valid concept, it has a bookend: "success object". n/t lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #7

lol. I don't know what to say. caseymoz Sep 2012 #12

"Objectification" is just another rad-fem myth Major Nikon Sep 2012 #13

I could see claiming objectification when you decide 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #15

Even if you thought women exist solely as baby factories, it still wouldn't be "objectification" Major Nikon Sep 2012 #16

Self objectification is a really bizarre term 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #17

It's just part of rad-fems' slut shaming Major Nikon Sep 2012 #19

It arguably shackles women too. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #5

Women demand a lot of men, why can't men make a few demands of their own? Zalatix Sep 2012 #4

Because we're plentiful. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #6

That's changing in some demographics 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #18

I imagine most women faced with that would rather be alone. Zalatix Sep 2012 #21

Possibly 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #22

Given that our schools are apparently designed to fail boys 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #8

lets be honest no one wants to date a loser, a one night stand might be okay but long term hell no loli phabay Sep 2012 #9

Men do not primarily look for "earning potential" in a partner. Bonobo Sep 2012 #10

Would I classify a woman as a loser if she had no job? ElboRuum Sep 2012 #28

Nevermind underemployed.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2012 #11

Just another example of "female privilege" Major Nikon Sep 2012 #14

Nope, this is male privilege 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #20

Interesting how this was shrugged off on HOF Group Bonobo Sep 2012 #23

It is interesting 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #24

we are talking dating, not stay at home fathers. i am a HUGE supporter of stay at home seabeyond Sep 2012 #25

Nothing to say on the gendered double standard? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #27

Well, there really is no double standard and I think that's what's at issue... ElboRuum Sep 2012 #29

That last bit was what I was getting at 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #30

That's what's funny... ElboRuum Sep 2012 #31

This is where the double standard comes in Major Nikon Sep 2012 #36

True, but it is interesting that you put it that way... ElboRuum Sep 2012 #37

"It's not a double standard, it's just plain old self-gratifying bullshit" 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #38

Only a fool would look for reason in a concept that is completely unreasonable Major Nikon Sep 2012 #41

Reminds me of the Addams Family movie... ElboRuum Sep 2012 #42

You said something about not dating a man who doesn't work ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2012 #35

Here's the way I see it Major Nikon Sep 2012 #43

People of any gender can select partners based on whatever criteria they wish. MadrasT Sep 2012 #26

The reason the subject of stay at home dads is relevant Bonobo Sep 2012 #32

A certain set of people on here 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #33

Well they seem to think they're just sooo much smarter than the average bear... opiate69 Sep 2012 #34

Evidence to the contrary is already there Major Nikon Sep 2012 #47

Its the people who think "pro choice" means they get to be in charge of everyone ELSE'S choices Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #55

They don't even speak for all feminists Major Nikon Sep 2012 #44

That's awfully generous of you. Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #50

Once upon a time, men decided how to protect the women. This is called patriarchy. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #57

Thought you might be interested in this article 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #39

Pretty interesting article... ElboRuum Sep 2012 #40

How is an unemployed man entitled to a date? Shitty Mitty Sep 2012 #45

"Entitled"? Bonobo Sep 2012 #46

because were entitled-y titled dooodley dooodz, silly! To be a dooooodly dood is to have a dastardly Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #49

I didn't see the word entitled anywhere until your comment 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #51

It would be interesting to see how age plays into this equation Major Nikon Sep 2012 #48

Older women have fewer options 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #52

It does seem to be a seller's market Major Nikon Sep 2012 #53

A while ago my wife and I 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #54

Funny you mention that... Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2012 #56