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lumberjack_jeff

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9. Speaking of "extremely nuanced definition of consent"

Reply to Warren DeMontague (Original post)

Tue Sep 11, 2012, 10:47 AM

Sep 2012

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125510533

Hell, way too often we outright tell them that they have no right to withdraw consent once sex has started.

I suspect that the author meant to say that the guy has to stop if she changes her mind - which is fair enough (albeit not very nice), but "sex" has already occurred, and you can't retroactively withdraw consent.

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