Workplace Salaries: At Last, Women on Top

[Major Nikon]

50. Assumptions are the mother of all fuckups

This is a perfect example of why I consider your "right wing" label to be intellectually lazy as hell. I have never denied that gender wage discrimination exists, and I have never seen anyone here deny that gender wage discrimination doesn't exist. This is NOT the same thing as claiming the rad-fem patriarchy conspiracy theory exists. Rad-fems believe that because of what they call the "patriarchy" ALL of the gender wage gap is due to discrimination. Can I simply assume that's what you believe? Maybe you do and maybe you don't. Assuming you do and then arguing from that basis is what's known as strawman bullshit. Assuming that I don't believe gender wage discrimination exists is just as much bullshit. These are the pitfalls your ad hominem bullshit gets you into. When you simply assume you know the other side's argument when you obviously don't, fuckups like this one are the result I fully predicted.

Had you actually read and understood any of the competent analyses on the subject, you would know that sociologists use controls for the parts of the gender pay gap they can account. What's left is categorized as unknown causes. The reason they do this is because it's extremely difficult, if not impossible, to determine how much, if any of the gender wage gap is actually due to discrimination. The assumption that all of the unknown causes are due to discrimination is another intellectual fuckup. The most comprehensive studies I've seen put the unknown number in the single digits. When you account for total compensation, rather than just wages, the number gets even smaller. So the very best you can say is that there MAY be a very small portion of the wage gap that is due to discrimination, yet you claim to absolutely know it exists when the most objective experts on the subject don't go that far.

I firmly believe in equal opportunity. In fact, I'm quite passionate about the subject. You evidently believe in intellectually weak and flawed arguments that dictate equal opportunity always translates to equal outcome. I'm just not that naive. I don't get upset at your arguments. In fact, I find them quite entertaining. I feel you're simply parroting out nonsense you happen to believe which is ridiculously simple to debunk and the methods you use to do so are also ridiculously simple to debunk. If your argument was as strong as you evidently think it is, why do you continuously attempt to conflate racism with sexism, even after I've already pointed out the obvious fallacy with it?

I'm sorry if this upsets you, but if you want to continue to get away with arguments that are obviously flawed, you might be happier over at HOF which appears to be your forum of choice on this subject. Just sayin'