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36. Define "coerce" as you use it

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:44 PM

Aug 2012

I'm inclined to think you have a pretty broad definition considering the universal conclusion that asking a woman back to your hotel room then dropping it when she says no is borderline rape.

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Yes, it was a Joke. But it points up a real question. [View all] Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 OP

Wow. *smh* redqueen Aug 2012 #1

So when you talk of "smash the patrirchy", do you agree with Dworkin, "twisty", etc Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #2

You're straying from the topic, but since I was socialized to be nice... redqueen Aug 2012 #7

So the widespread conspiracy known as "the Patriarchy" is responsible for, at root, all oppression.. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #10

This is where I start thinking this is a waste of time. redqueen Aug 2012 #25

The source of racism is racism. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #29

So you need familiarity of sociology to understand ideas from those with zero sociology background? Major Nikon Aug 2012 #42

Could you define the patriarchy, as you are using it 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #13

All of those things are contextual and fluid, hifiguy Aug 2012 #16

A pretty good indicator that someone is full of shit is 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #17

"Smashing the patriarchy" = "Hell freezing over" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2012 #21

"Patriarchy" = "That Which Needs To Be Smashed" Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #22

Sounds like a job for She-Hulk 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #35

I think there is a misunderstanding here. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #3

Good point. Porn is not a synonym for sex, redqueen Aug 2012 #4

Actually, its the reverse that is disingenuous. Trying to present pictures of naked people Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #6

Yes, of course. redqueen Aug 2012 #9

I agree that there should be scrutiny, worker protection, etc. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #11

Both men and women enjoy looking at people they find attractive. redqueen Aug 2012 #24

Isn't that nice of you to judge how everyone does things. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #27

Nope. redqueen Aug 2012 #31

Sorry, if you're looking for a place where bogus psychobabble concepts like "objectification" and Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #33

You're thinking of this from a dude-science standpoint 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #41

Here's what I find particularly amusing Major Nikon Aug 2012 #47

I sincerely doubt that you have ever so much as walked by a college level Soc course. opiate69 Aug 2012 #38

Yes, clearly *we* are the problem 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #40

Well then... opiate69 Aug 2012 #8

Never. Here's why... redqueen Aug 2012 #26

And who is that quote from? Gail "Zero Corroboration" Dines? Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #28

Well isn't that a nice, unsourced non-sequitor.... opiate69 Aug 2012 #39

you know you see the shit and glass on the pizza and recoil, but theres someone out there who goes loli phabay Aug 2012 #48

Interesting Statement, Here: Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #23

I guess Sheila Jeffreys is a separatist. Whatever. redqueen Aug 2012 #30

I won't alert, but you're not gonna be allowed to come in here and insult group members. Or Hosts. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #32

Define "coerce" as you use it 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #36

Dworkin never "backed off that idea" Major Nikon Aug 2012 #43

And I think that is important, especially since in those debates, a time honored Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #5

Here is a document from JSTOR, a highly respected, peer review journal. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #34

Pah! You couldn't be bothered to read the whole thing, but I'm supposed to? Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #44

I am not asking you to do anything. I was just accepting your request for evidence. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #51

I did, see below. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #54

JSTOR is NOT a "highly respected, peer review journal" Major Nikon Aug 2012 #46

OK, you're right. I have used JSTOR many times for college debates, ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #52

How does everyone here feel about the American Psychological Association? nt ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #53

Can I have the time back that I just spent on that, please? ...Please??? Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #50

OK, my bad. How do you feel about the APA? nt ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #58

Depends. Are they going to make me read a 30 page PDF on the phallocentric implications Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #68

I've noticed a great many of the people lamenting the devastating effects of porn 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #14

I also think it's deeply offensive when people take it upon themselves to "repair" or "critique" Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #18

Well they're just trying to help 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #20

bravo, loli phabay Aug 2012 #49

It's hard to believe people are still pushing these debunked ideas Major Nikon Aug 2012 #37

Exactly. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #45

The idea I am trying to push is polite debate. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #57

The problem with the anti-porn debate 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #59

Do you have those documents handy? ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #60

Enough with the coy, passive-aggressive bullshit.... opiate69 Aug 2012 #62

I have nothing from the APA. I just want to know if they are an accepted source ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #64

Without seeing specific documents, can`t say for sure.... opiate69 Aug 2012 #65

I agree there are concerns with porn Major Nikon Aug 2012 #61

I am not advocating outlawing pornography. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #63

I go one step farther than that Major Nikon Aug 2012 #66

I completely respect your position. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #67

I think most behaviors can be linked to a combination of society/genetics 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #12

Only someone woefully and utterly ignorant of hifiguy Aug 2012 #15

If they're prepared to argue that PIV sex is "unnatural" and necessarily traumatic 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #19

Okay, folks, my joke isn't half as funny as this thing: Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #55

I think they're bored 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #56

It's like feminist academia is reacting to a series of reciprocal dares. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #69