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In reply to the discussion: Yes, it was a Joke. But it points up a real question. [View all]Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)6. Actually, its the reverse that is disingenuous. Trying to present pictures of naked people
Or people fucking as if "porn" were a monolithic entity. More like treating ALL food as if it were Mcdonalds--- not the other way around.
One thing i found interesting in looking back at the Jensen threads, was the brou ha ha when he tried to claim anal sex was inherently degrading or opressive. To which, a lot of people got fairly offended, because lots of pople LIKE anal sex.
But, that is tangentally relevant to the topic. chimps engage in anal sex, for instance.
The topic of this thread is NOT porn, so please do not try to derail the thread.
I Would ask if you agree with zombie's assertion: is it "natural", to your mind, for male humans to enjoy looking at naked female humans (or, in the case of gay men, other men?) Yes? No?
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So when you talk of "smash the patrirchy", do you agree with Dworkin, "twisty", etc
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#2
So the widespread conspiracy known as "the Patriarchy" is responsible for, at root, all oppression..
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#10
So you need familiarity of sociology to understand ideas from those with zero sociology background?
Major Nikon
Aug 2012
#42
Actually, its the reverse that is disingenuous. Trying to present pictures of naked people
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#6
Sorry, if you're looking for a place where bogus psychobabble concepts like "objectification" and
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#33
I sincerely doubt that you have ever so much as walked by a college level Soc course.
opiate69
Aug 2012
#38
you know you see the shit and glass on the pizza and recoil, but theres someone out there who goes
loli phabay
Aug 2012
#48
I won't alert, but you're not gonna be allowed to come in here and insult group members. Or Hosts.
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#32
And I think that is important, especially since in those debates, a time honored
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#5
Pah! You couldn't be bothered to read the whole thing, but I'm supposed to?
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#44
I am not asking you to do anything. I was just accepting your request for evidence.
ZombieHorde
Aug 2012
#51
How does everyone here feel about the American Psychological Association? nt
ZombieHorde
Aug 2012
#53
Can I have the time back that I just spent on that, please? ...Please???
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#50
Depends. Are they going to make me read a 30 page PDF on the phallocentric implications
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#68
I've noticed a great many of the people lamenting the devastating effects of porn
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#14
I also think it's deeply offensive when people take it upon themselves to "repair" or "critique"
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#18
I have nothing from the APA. I just want to know if they are an accepted source
ZombieHorde
Aug 2012
#64
I think most behaviors can be linked to a combination of society/genetics
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#12
If they're prepared to argue that PIV sex is "unnatural" and necessarily traumatic
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#19
It's like feminist academia is reacting to a series of reciprocal dares.
lumberjack_jeff
Aug 2012
#69