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Sun Jul 15, 2012, 05:50 PM Jul 2012

Comedic double standards [View all]

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So the news of late has been pretty heavily focused on the comedian Tosh and him making rape jokes against a particular heckler in the audience.

There is a great deal of debate as to whether he should be allowed to say such things and if he should be removed from the air for "taking it too far".

In other words there are some things you just don't joke about.

Ok, I didn't really want to start another Tosh thread. My interest though was in the comparison between that story and this one:



Kind of an old video but I just saw it recently. Anyway it is a clip from The Talk featuring a number of women making repeated and unabashed jokes about a man who had his penis cut off by his deranged wife who then threw it down a disposal (meaning no chance of reattachment).

They laugh about this incident for a good 6 minutes and yet there was hardly any backlash (in fairness Sara Gilbert did have a brief moment of clarity and said this is sexist before being shut down by a joke that the audience seemed to love).

Tosh made an off color joke about a hypothetical attack. He has made the news for many days now and spawned countless debates and at least one petition to see him removed from the air.

A number of female comedians and actresses made a series of jokes about a very real attack that permanently destroyed this mans life and there was virtually no backlash. It was all just good fun.

It would seem that if rape isn't funny then neither is castration. If one is crossing a line that comedians must not cross then so is the other.

So I guess my reason for posting this is to draw attention to this double standard and see if anyone had any theories as to why it exists and what can be done about it.
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Comedic double standards [View all] 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 OP
My first OP here 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #1
to be honest, I find both scenarios to be repugnant maddezmom Jul 2012 #2
I agree with you there. Nt Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #3
I agree with you. Thank you. I would like to ask OP about part of the OP though. uppityperson Jul 2012 #19
My intent 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #22
Thank you. Rape can and often does result in permanent physical damage as well as psychological uppityperson Jul 2012 #24
Yeah, I'm not seeing a double standard here. I'm seeing two examples of repugnant behavior. yardwork Jul 2012 #20
The double standard would be in the public response to both instances 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #23
In that case, the overwhelming guilt is on those who are silent in the face of female oppression. yardwork Jul 2012 #27
Not DU 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #28
That's your argument. You're saying that it's hypocritical of people to disagree with Tosh's words yardwork Jul 2012 #30
Ok . . . so where is the petition 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #31
When did this episode of The Talk air? How do you know there wasn't a petition at the time? yardwork Jul 2012 #32
Exactly my point 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #34
Whatever. /nt yardwork Jul 2012 #36
"Something you say when you know you're in the wrong but can't admit it it?" 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #37
Here's something to get outraged over. This is something we can all agree is wrong: yardwork Jul 2012 #38
O . . . k . . . 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #39
The justification, as with Solanis, is that it is "brilliant, necessary satire" Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #4
After reading william's Op (which I'm sorry to see he's deleted) lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #5
OT, I was sorry to see him delete the OP, too. Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #7
I think this clip does fall to the same low standard as a rape joke, but Squinch Jul 2012 #6
I think the rape comments were way out of line, and I would agree, more egregious in many ways. Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #8
Could the double standard be because of how often each happens in real life? Squinch Jul 2012 #9
Maybe, but there are a lot of horrible things that happen pretty rarely. Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #11
A woman being raped by 5 guys in a comedy club is pretty rare . . . 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #12
But a woman being raped by 5 guys when we don't specify the location is not that rare Squinch Jul 2012 #16
Actually that's still pretty rare. 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #17
I think, again, you're ignoring the implied or assumed acceptability of the comments Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #18
Because some women, like some men, like some people, are insensitive, or jerks, or not thinking uppityperson Jul 2012 #21
We agree 100%. Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #25
Tosh was as out of line as Michael Richards ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2012 #10
Nothing is off the table in comedy. MrSlayer Jul 2012 #13
pretty much my feeling as well. comedy should be cutting ans sometimes offensive loli phabay Jul 2012 #15
Hey, I "thought we were done with Tosh"? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2012 #14
Men should complain more. caseymoz Jul 2012 #26
How was it a threat? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #29
If threats were perceived rationally . . . caseymoz Jul 2012 #33
"I'm certain as Tosh made the remark, this woman did not perceive the chance that five guys . . . " 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #35
See it your own way, then. caseymoz Jul 2012 #40
On open mic night . . . 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #41
I certainly do see one . . . caseymoz Jul 2012 #44
I disagree. I think what Tosh dd was borderline incitement. Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #42
I wouldn't say it rises to that level 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #43
There was a very interesting article in today's NYT hifiguy Jul 2012 #45
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