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In reply to the discussion: How do we get more men to vote for democrats? [View all]MicaelS
(8,747 posts)23. Odin2005 nailed it for me over here...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=33399
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Trying to restrict / ban guns is just part and parcel of this. It's a urban vs non-urban issue. I know gun owners who say they will never vote Democratic as long as the Party advocates Gun Control and Gun Prohibition.
The Dem betrayal of the working class started in 1968. The activist faction within the party became dominated by "bourgeois" upper middle class types obsessed with cultural issues who derided the values of working class Americans. This lead to the emergence of the "Reagan Democrats" and the alignment of working class white men with the Republicans. We Democrats are seen an "elitist" party of upper-middle class yuppies by a lot of working class people.
That doesn't mean gay rights, women's rights, etc. are not important, but they should not displace economic progressiveness as the central "hub".
Every time an Upper-Middle Class Dem talks about how virtuous they are because they bought organic food at Whole Paycheck they drive more working class people into the hands of the GOP.
That doesn't mean gay rights, women's rights, etc. are not important, but they should not displace economic progressiveness as the central "hub".
Every time an Upper-Middle Class Dem talks about how virtuous they are because they bought organic food at Whole Paycheck they drive more working class people into the hands of the GOP.
And I added...
The idea that the only people that mattered were those in the large urban centers, help drive away those in small town and rural areas.
Trying to restrict / ban guns is just part and parcel of this. It's a urban vs non-urban issue. I know gun owners who say they will never vote Democratic as long as the Party advocates Gun Control and Gun Prohibition.
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I think that the 40+ group is a lost cause because we've never heard from an economic populist.
lumberjack_jeff
Feb 2012
#3
Solid libertarian stances on social policy. Anti-censorship, anti-drug war, pro choice in all areas.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2012
#4
In addition: Look at the demographics for Jesse Ventura's win in Minnesota.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2012
#5
I got this recurring nightmare that the Republicans drop a platform bomb
Old and In the Way
Feb 2012
#11
Gun control is widely recognized as a loser issue at the federal level.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2012
#9
I have similar feelings and think I know what you mean, but can you give me some examples?
lumberjack_jeff
Feb 2012
#14
"Every time an Upper-Middle Class Dem talks about...." and this happens all the time, right?
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2012
#24
Perception, yes. But the "latte sucking liberal who preaches about how great he is for shopping at
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2012
#27
I'm talking about odin's specific quote. He said, "Every time an Upper-Middle Class Dem talks about
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2012
#35
Believe me, I knew plenty of arrogant, condescending rich folks well before Whole Foods even existed
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2012
#37
I've never heard that from anyone except a few isolated, angry internet loons.
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2012
#51
I think it's a real small minority, loud internet blather to the contrary I don't think they have
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2012
#50
Hmm. Some of that stuff, for better or worse, breaks more on cultural/demographic/geographic lines
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2012
#54
Stop trying to be an alternative to the TeaPubliKlans and get back to being choice of ideas and ends
TheKentuckian
Jul 2012
#56