Tough Guise: Violence, Media & the Crisis in Masculinity

[plantwomyn]

10. You state that the "operative phrase is "seeming"

yet you fail to recognize what "seeming" means in the context which I used it, e.g. in appearance but not necessarily in actuality. So clearly I wasn't telling you what you think or flame baiting.
You seem to have ignored the caveat in my statement about women's responsibility for teaching sons and I will add here, the men around them, what is acceptable conduct.

If we are exchanging opinions about ineffectuality, IMHO you pretend to answer the two questions that I asked by misrepresenting what I posted. I don't know if it's because you unwilling or unable to read my post indiscriminately. But your statement doesn't answer either of my questions, ever indirectly.

Your inference that I believe that men teach one another to be violent does not have any connection to my post. I do however believe that they CAN teach them NOT to express their "masculinity" with violence. You have every right to disavow any responsibility to mentor other males, or lead by example. But I don't believe society can blame or burden women with the full responsibility of the upbringing or children, not matter how "benevolent" their "detention" may be. Your use of the word "detention" is of interest though. I also notice that you added the attribute of "self-discipline". Perhaps if that were placed first and foremost, the aggressive violence would be much less of a malaise.

The charter of the group does not preclude females from posting nor does it seem to require that there be a unanimous agreement about the views expressed. But if you were threatened by my statement I apologize. But I do wonder why you felt that you needed to reply to questions I addressed to Upton.