"Objectification": Science, or Junk Science?

[Major Nikon]

160. Those that refuse to debate objectification have good reason not to do so

The 'theory' of objectification is the cornerstone of sex-negative feminism. What I find quite ironic is some of the same people who soundly reject the idea that sex-negative feminism isn't a real thing are some of the exact same people who insist that objectification is. Sexual objectification is nothing more than Immanuel Kant's ideas warmed over by Dworkin and MacKinnon. So the same people who claim to reject Dworkin and MacKinnon's sex negative ideas are the same ones who embrace objectification theory without realizing that those two things are joined at the hip.

Kant posited that all sex outside of marriage(fornication) was objectifying. Prior to the Victorian era, fornication wasn't really an issue anyone was worried about. The bible is silent on the subject. Religious philosophers took Kant's ideas and decided that fornication was a sin and that sex was a dirty filthy act that needed to be suppressed except as a means for procreation (sex negative).

Dworkin put a different spin on Kant's idea and decided that the entire notion of coitus under the patriarchy was fundamentally coercive and harmful to women (sex negative) regardless of whether it happened inside or outside of marriage. Anyone who parrots out the feminist version of objectification theory is simply parroting out Dworkin's sex negative ideas which were unsurprisingly derived from Kant's sex negative ideas. The reason why sex negative feminists and sex negative religionists are a match made in heaven is because their fundamental philosophy is cut from the same cloth. But we can't entertain that history of feminism and have that debate, because it strikes at the very foundation of these ideas. If you try to have that debate, you are labeled and derided as an antifeminist in an effort to shut you up, even though lots of feminists have been making those same arguments for decades and 3rd wave feminism doesn't even consider objectification an actionable issue.