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In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]Major Nikon
(36,916 posts)79. If you are going to call another argument dumb, you may want to do a better job of forming yours
Because we all appear on this planet as fully-formed adults, and never change our opinions on any subject. Ever.
What does this have to do with the text you quoted?
Strawman.
In fantasy land.
Your image of a rapist is a man lurking in the bushes, hunting for a woman to grab and then rape in an alley. Guess what? Most rapes aren't that. Most rapes are committed by men who are normally 'reasonable'. They aren't evil beasts, nor is it something comes over them, it's that they've decided that they are more important than the woman, or that she'll like it after he's started. Frequently he'll get into this situation due to alcohol or peer pressure.
Your image of a rapist is a man lurking in the bushes, hunting for a woman to grab and then rape in an alley. Guess what? Most rapes aren't that. Most rapes are committed by men who are normally 'reasonable'. They aren't evil beasts, nor is it something comes over them, it's that they've decided that they are more important than the woman, or that she'll like it after he's started. Frequently he'll get into this situation due to alcohol or peer pressure.
The OP never claimed or even suggested such an image.
Strawman.
Because, again, you have this image of a rapist popping out of the shadows and attacking. While "just walking down the street" is probably hyperbole, the process of committing a rape usually starts in normal, everyday situations. Say, a party.
The video made that implication, not the OP.
Strawman.
Wow, you're working very hard to be offended.
Whether you realize it or not, assuming an entire class of people has a criminal proclivity is offensive. Examples of this with other classes are not hard to find and are routinely regarded as offensive. Offending the demographic you are trying to 'educate' is counterproductive.
Yeah, that's what's been done for the last few decades. Has rape stopped? No? Well maybe it's not quite so effective.
Sexual assault has fallen by more than 50% in recent years.2
Had the 1993 rate held steady, about 9.7 million Americans would have been assaulted in the last 20 years.
Thanks to the decline, the actual number of victims was about 4.2 million. In other words, if not for the progress we've made in the last 20 years, an additional 5.5 million Americans would have become victims of sexual violence.
http://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/frequency-of-sexual-assault
Because neither one is a victim yet. Once she is raped, or the man is robbed, your warnings are a transfer of blame - You warned her not to wear that outfit...
This argument has no more merit than those who blame victims and uses the exact same failed reasoning. Reducing risk is part and parcel to rape prevention just as it is with all sorts of crimes.
http://www.rainn.org/get-information/sexual-assault-prevention
Oh, and again you are still stuck on the image of rapists lurking in the shadows.
Strawman.
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felt the same way about the other one floating around here. the one that shows a woman passed out
leftyohiolib
Nov 2013
#2
Unfortunately- this has already started, I think- this OP is likely to be misrepresented
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#6
Seems almost as insulting as "please be careful of others" sign at the local swimming pool.
LanternWaste
Nov 2013
#10
we should set up a pool for when the first ask the admin question gets posted on this op
loli phabay
Nov 2013
#12
Anti-rape ads that portray women as "asking for it" are mocked by feminists quite often
Major Nikon
Nov 2013
#63
If you're looking for homophobia, you will be hard pressed to find it from me.
ZombieHorde
Nov 2013
#53
"You made it a personal attack on his opinions that he is some woman-hating asshole"
ZombieHorde
Nov 2013
#72
Did you come here to address the OP comments or just to denigrate the poster?
Major Nikon
Nov 2013
#57
If you are going to call another argument dumb, you may want to do a better job of forming yours
Major Nikon
Nov 2013
#79
I think people care more that it works. Rape is a major problem in this society and we need to
hrmjustin
Nov 2013
#111
I think it should make both men and women nod. I was nodding when I heard it.
hrmjustin
Nov 2013
#116
I saw a statistic that 1 in 5 women in this nation are raped. I think we can get over this video.
hrmjustin
Nov 2013
#114
Much as a "Swimmers: please be careful, don't run and stay safe" sign at a swimming pool is insultin
LanternWaste
Feb 2018
#118
Much as 'No spitting or blowing nose in the pool' is insulting to swimmers, eh?
LanternWaste
Sep 2018
#119