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In reply to the discussion: Rad fem links [View all]Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)That said, this is a pretty obvious false equivalency. Sort of like what's going on in congress, right now. If you look at the blatant calling-out, the name calling, the over-the-top simply foul insinuations that have been made directly against members of this site; it's just no contest. I could run down the list, but why bother.
If I took DU seriously--- and by "seriously" I don't mean the parts I do take seriously, the coming here for information, humor, and interactions and activism on the topic of progressive current event issues and the Democratic Party, I mean the tendency of some to show up entirely for the purpose of spinning themselves into high dudgeon mode over silly drama, personality crap and feuds with random intertube strangers--- then the crap that's been flung at this group lately, some of it personally at me, would bug me. As it is, it doesn't. It's pretty much a joke.
And as Jeff notes downthread, the material linked has been repeatedly brought here; in fact, some of those specific bloggers have been known directly to troll DU. Hell, they brag about it in some of those very blogs. As for the consistent bargle of accusations around "MRAs"... I'm supposed to take that seriously? I get accused of being an "MRA"-- why? Have I once opposed any womens' rights? Have I suggested the VAWA is bad law? Have I ever even "whined about how bad men have it"? Have I made some dumb-ass argument that there's an "epidemic of false rape accusations" or any of the other hallmarks of the MRA? No, I haven't. No, I'm supposedly a big bad MRA because "MRAs disagree with Feminists. You Disagree with Andrea Dworkin. Andrea Dworkin was a Feminist. Therefore, you're obviously an MRA" .... I mean, that's the logic.
Not only that, but some here are apparently convinced I'm not just any old garden variety MRA, I'm some kind of internet MRA grand poop-bah. Yes, my clever plan was to show up on DU in stealth mode for half a decade, then pretend that I'd never fucking heard of "MRAs" at all, see.... and then deny any association with the movement that I have spearheaded MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Breeeeeeeel-iant!
Seriously. I mean, the reason I came to the men's group in the first place was because I thought it was funny that the software was throwing it out there as men's group (group) ... I thought, group (group), that's funny. That's how my mind works.
And when I realized it was a target for the small cadre of folks promoting 2nd Wave Dworkin-based silliness, well, then I decided to hang around. No, see, I don't agree with Andrea Dworkin. If that makes me some sort of member of a hate group, guess what- there are a lot of us. And Andrea Dworkin, remember, worked with Ed Meese in the 80s... Ed Meese who plotted with the Heritage Foundation to shut the government down over Obamacare. Using the same sort of "logic" what is favored by some on this site, couldn't it be argued that anyone promoting Andrea Dworkin is arguing for continued government shutdown?
...but, I digress. Like I said, I appreciate your efforts to be fair, here. I just don't think there's much point.
The folks invested in perpetuating stupid feuds on this board would do well to use the "trash group" function. That's my take.
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