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lumberjack_jeff

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36. Perhaps, but MRAs lack the veneer of legitimacy that academia gives these people.

Tue Oct 8, 2013, 09:46 AM

Oct 2013

The only people I've seen advocate starving babies of the opposite sex weren't MRA's.

We tend to rationalize those views away as "reacting to triggers", or "trauma" or "victimization". Even if those "explanations" are accurate, it should still render the credibility of anyone saying it to zero.

And links from these sites, unlike links from MRA sites (even the most benign ones) are frequently used in a positive way, and regularly allowed by juries.

A while back, the Men's group polled DU and asked everyone if they self-identified as an MRA. Zero posters responded yes. I would be curious how many DU'ers would self-identify as radfem.

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Rad fem links [View all] Bonobo Oct 2013 OP

Interesting reading. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #1

I bet you'll find this one interesting. Bonobo Oct 2013 #2

That one is extremely transphobic. Behind the Aegis Oct 2013 #3

there is a lot of that, in that particular echo chamber. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #4

I was absolutely astounded at the amount of HappyMe Oct 2013 #53

Indeed. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #5

No, seriously. Here is the best blog. Bonobo Oct 2013 #6

how do they know the gender of the person plugging the search terms into google? Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #7

They specifically addressed that issue scientifically. Bonobo Oct 2013 #8

I suppose we should be thankful that the internet and free blogging platforms Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #9

.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2013 #10

They owe me a hat-eating show LadyHawkAZ Oct 2013 #11

Oh, they'll claim you're only pretending to be female. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #12

I suspect I turned into a man in some minds a long time ago LadyHawkAZ Oct 2013 #13

Some people take it WAY too seriously, I've noticed that. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #14

Good to know I'm not the only one that sees this: opiate69 Oct 2013 #20

Nope, I notice it too. nt ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2013 #22

I would bet that there is a HappyMe Oct 2013 #54

There are some sick, sad, pathetic people in the world LadyHawkAZ Oct 2013 #15

I read the t.v. one Doctor_J Oct 2013 #16

My God, the PIV on TV one is amazing ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2013 #17

Wow, that writer's certainly a piece of work... Hayabusa Oct 2013 #19

That author must have had some sort of trauma. Doctor_J Oct 2013 #21

There has to be. Hayabusa Oct 2013 #23

... And having sex is like being in battle. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #18

Like this? Bonobo Oct 2013 #24

Because I'm in a Spock kinda mood lately... opiate69 Oct 2013 #25

I'd pay real money Hayabusa Oct 2013 #26

that it just a whole barrowload of crazy right there. i hope to hell no one is dumb enough loli phabay Oct 2013 #63

"Our scientists predict in 5 years we will achieve total victory over the orgasm" Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #64

lol or invites them to their beds, it would be like sleeping with a black widow loli phabay Oct 2013 #65

I don't comment on other peoples' sex lives. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #66

There is some truly jaw-dropping stuff out there. As insane in its own way as the worst MRA's. nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #27

Interestingly enough those that use MRA as a pejorative are often the ones doing the linking Major Nikon Oct 2013 #28

I think that radfems are WAY closer to being a true "hate group". Bonobo Oct 2013 #29

Hate, bitterness. From my perspective, having learned a lot about mental health issues... Denninmi Oct 2013 #30

well said. n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #37

I wouldn't say that. A lot of MRA types are pretty fucking hateful. nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #31

Yep, tarring is bad. I'd like to see it stop. nt Bonobo Oct 2013 #32

So we're in agreement on that, anyway. nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #33

Oh, I absolutely agree, they have a right to their views. Denninmi Oct 2013 #34

Yeah, the stuff in the OP is clearly over-the-top and delusional. No argument there. nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #35

Perhaps, but MRAs lack the veneer of legitimacy that academia gives these people. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #36

I basically agree with you here, and I wasn't referring to anyone on DU. nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #42

Probably none. Who would want to be associated with such hateful transphobic people? Dash87 Oct 2013 #51

Good question. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #55

Sheila Jeffreys has more academia acceptance than Dworkin ever had Major Nikon Oct 2013 #56

Why do I know that name? Behind the Aegis Oct 2013 #57

I haven't known her to write about anything other than rad-fem topics Major Nikon Oct 2013 #58

She was booted from RadFem 2012 for being a disgusting transphobe LadyHawkAZ Oct 2013 #59

I bet that was it! Behind the Aegis Oct 2013 #60

Actually, it was the entire "Radfem 2012" that got booted, from Conway Hall in London. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #61

That was the one, thanks LadyHawkAZ Oct 2013 #62

I appreciate that you hang out in a lot of different groups, and try to be fair & even handed. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #40

I agree that a lot of the accusations around here have been ridiculous, and unjust. nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #41

I've done a few terms on MIRT, and I do think some of those MRA individuals have shown up here. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #43

Both the hardline MRA's and the extremist radfems are essentially the fringe of the fringe. nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #48

Here's my take on the whole "MRA" issue... opiate69 Oct 2013 #49

Oh hell yeah! Bonobo Oct 2013 #44

FWIW MadrasT Oct 2013 #45

Thanks. Seriously. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #46

its not hate its fear and it's sad tillikum Oct 2013 #50

welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #52

What do these women do when they encounter ... MicaelS Oct 2013 #38

My guess is that they are in many cases, shut-ins ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2013 #39

Yeah, sort of like the most extreme fundamentalist Christians. Whether or not they're "shut-ins" nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #47